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06 Dec 2018 16:31

ice&fire wrote:AS has collected all info published by news media in an article today and gives some interesting comments:
There will be eight MTFs, four of them new
There might not be any stage longer than 200km
It describes La Cubilla as a 30km long, so they might go up to the summit
It talks about the multiple sides of Acebo
https://as.com/ciclismo/2018/12/05/vuelta_espana/1544048292_916108.html


La Cubilla is named Asturian Galibier on a website. Lol.
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14 Dec 2018 06:58

AS confirms the stage in Sierra de Guadarrama with the same climbs as in 2015, Navacerrada, Morcuera N, Morcuera S and Cotos, but Cotos won't be the stage finish.
They quote DIario de Avila as the source for the stage to Gredos to be scheduled on the last Saturday. So the stage in Guadarrama would be in Thursday or Friday, depending on the date for the stage to Toledo.
My guess is that coming to Guadalajara and going to Ávila, both Toledo-Guadarrama and Guadarrama-Toledo are feasible, but closing the roads of Guadarrama on Friday afternoon may be more problematic than doing it on Thursday.
AS also confirms the stage finish in Urdax, which should come after the Pau ITT.

https://as.com/ciclismo/2018/12/13/vuelta_espana/1544734142_784921.html
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14 Dec 2018 23:37

The stage finish at the Observatorio de Javalambre is confirmed by local media:
http://www.diariodeteruel.es/noticia.asp?notid=1010962&secid=5#.XBPZffwgdak.twitter

This could be as early as stage 5

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14 Dec 2018 23:48

Really like that profile
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15 Dec 2018 15:31

Red Rick wrote:Really like that profile


Yep, looks better then a extra km of dirt road at TdF.
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17 Dec 2018 14:53

Accoding to El Periodic, the stage in Andorra will include 4km of sterrato connecting the climbs of Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp.

https://www.elperiodic.ad/noticia/68720/lavueltatindra-el-primer-tram-de-sterrato-de-la-seva-historia-a-andorra

The final climbs will be Comella, Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp and the only flat between those climbs will be the sterrato section.
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17 Dec 2018 14:57

ice&fire wrote:Accoding to El Periodic, the stage in Andorra will include 4km of sterrato connecting the climbs of Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp.

https://www.elperiodic.ad/noticia/68720/lavueltatindra-el-primer-tram-de-sterrato-de-la-seva-historia-a-andorra

The final climbs will be Comella, Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp and the only flat between those climbs will be the sterrato section.

So Unipublic looke at the dumbass gimmick in the Tour, said "Hold my cerveza" and is actually trying to do it well?

Just slap 2/3 of the known Andorra regular climbs before that and it's great.
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17 Dec 2018 17:50

ice&fire wrote:The stage finish at the Observatorio de Javalambre is confirmed by local media:
http://www.diariodeteruel.es/noticia.asp?notid=1010962&secid=5#.XBPZffwgdak.twitter

Too bad they don't use the sterrato ascent. They would have to take the left road here to get to the Observatorio.
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17 Dec 2018 18:49

ice&fire wrote:Accoding to El Periodic, the stage in Andorra will include 4km of sterrato connecting the climbs of Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp.

https://www.elperiodic.ad/noticia/68720/lavueltatindra-el-primer-tram-de-sterrato-de-la-seva-historia-a-andorra

The final climbs will be Comella, Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp and the only flat between those climbs will be the sterrato section.


More like 1/2 Cortals d'Encamp, but it is probably better than just Comella and the full climb.
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17 Dec 2018 19:09

ice&fire wrote:Accoding to El Periodic, the stage in Andorra will include 4km of sterrato connecting the climbs of Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp.

https://www.elperiodic.ad/noticia/68720/lavueltatindra-el-primer-tram-de-sterrato-de-la-seva-historia-a-andorra

The final climbs will be Comella, Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp and the only flat between those climbs will be the sterrato section.


Better than feared. When you previously wrote an easy Andorra stage (since it was to early in the Vuelta to have the really tough mountain stages), I feared something like Ordino-Arcalis. This is much better. Comella is 4 km 8 %. Engolasters is 6 km, 8 %, followed by a sterrato road for a few kms, then another 6 km, 7,5-8 % to Els Cortals.
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17 Dec 2018 20:03

Red Rick wrote:
ice&fire wrote:Accoding to El Periodic, the stage in Andorra will include 4km of sterrato connecting the climbs of Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp.

https://www.elperiodic.ad/noticia/68720/lavueltatindra-el-primer-tram-de-sterrato-de-la-seva-historia-a-andorra

The final climbs will be Comella, Engolasters and Cortals d'Encamp and the only flat between those climbs will be the sterrato section.

So Unipublic looke at the dumbass gimmick in the Tour, said "Hold my cerveza" and is actually trying to do it well?

Just slap 2/3 of the known Andorra regular climbs before that and it's great.


Crossing fingers for the grid start!
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18 Dec 2018 12:09

They finally decided to ditch that combined jersey nonsense.
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18 Dec 2018 12:10

It was a unique jersey, but it just didn't make that much sense tbh. Good change IMO.
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18 Dec 2018 12:20

Valv.Piti wrote:It was a unique jersey, but it just didn't make that much sense tbh. Good change IMO.

All it did was make me look really hard for the rider in his regular jersey before realising 1 minute later I was a dumbass and he's right there in white.
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18 Dec 2018 16:58

I know that it doesn't have much of a purpose, since the winner of la combinada almost always was the overall victor of the race, but I found it attractive because of its uniqueness. If they could keep the classification, but with a blue (or whatever color) jersey, that could be nice. But in general, a combination classification would be more interesting, if there were different contenders to the jerseys, like in the Tour (points jersey won/contended by sprinters, climbers/breakaway riders battling it out for the polka-dot, white/yellow for GC). So in the end, I get why they changed it.
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18 Dec 2018 17:11

Great to see the white jersey classification will be as meaningful as it ever was
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18 Dec 2018 17:26

Simurgh wrote:I know that it doesn't have much of a purpose, since the winner of la combinada almost always was the overall victor of the race, but I found it attractive because of its uniqueness. If they could keep the classification, but with a blue (or whatever color) jersey, that could be nice. But in general, a combination classification would be more interesting, if there were different contenders to the jerseys, like in the Tour (points jersey won/contended by sprinters, climbers/breakaway riders battling it out for the polka-dot, white/yellow for GC). So in the end, I get why they changed it.

UCI limits the number of jerseys to 4.
According to Guillén they stuck to the combinada because of the sponsor, but they've changed the white jersey sponsor for next year.
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18 Dec 2018 18:15

It's fantastic that the Vuelta has fallen into step with most stage races by having a young riders jersey.
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18 Dec 2018 20:03

Anyone know what time the route presentation is tomorrow?
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