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Re: Steven Kruijswijk

11 May 2017 23:44

Kruijswijk is a contender, no doubt. Sitting where he is, fine: the best is yet to come. Quintana? Blah, blah, blah. Pinot (@Valv.piti)? We all waited for his Tibogiro, we'll see. I hope that you will eat your beard when he wins the whole thing ;) . Myths...good on the descent today, wasn't he?

SK is very dangerous in his '16 form. He should have won the Giro: went for his food and fell. The stories about Nibali putting pressure on him are rubbish.

I'm too busy rooting against Sky anyway :D . And I believe in Karma: destiny owes him one. Kruijswijk will be a factor, what will the outcome be? I wish him the (second ;) ) best.
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12 May 2017 05:28

By taking it easy in the first half, some GC riders are playing right into the hands of SK and Quintana, who, if everything goes according to their plan, will be peaking in the third week. Pinot and Thomas especially have seemed in good form from the beginning. If so, they've already wasted some chances.
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Re: Steven Kruijswijk

12 May 2017 08:45

Tonton wrote:Kruijswijk is a contender, no doubt. Sitting where he is, fine: the best is yet to come. Quintana? Blah, blah, blah. Pinot (@Valv.piti)? We all waited for his Tibogiro, we'll see. I hope that you will eat your beard when he wins the whole thing ;) . Myths...good on the descent today, wasn't he?

SK is very dangerous in his '16 form. He should have won the Giro: went for his food and fell. The stories about Nibali putting pressure on him are rubbish.

I'm too busy rooting against Sky anyway :D . And I believe in Karma: destiny owes him one. Kruijswijk will be a factor, what will the outcome be? I wish him the (second ;) ) best.


Karma.. I wish karma existed, but the world is full of evidence that karma is bs :)
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12 May 2017 09:08

Is Kruijswijk actually any good at flat and rolling TTs, like the ones in this Giro? Just been looking through his results and he's never done anything special - in fact, they are no better than Quintana's results, especially in GTs. Where's the expectation coming from that 70km of flat/rolling TTs are a good thing for him? I can clearly see why they suit Dumoulin and Pinot, maybe even Thomas. But I don't get the Kruijswijk TT hype. He doesn't have the most aero bone structure after all!
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12 May 2017 09:28

DFA123 wrote:Is Kruijswijk actually any good at flat and rolling TTs, like the ones in this Giro? Just been looking through his results and he's never done anything special - in fact, they are no better than Quintana's results, especially in GTs. Where's the expectation coming from that 70km of flat/rolling TTs are a good thing for him? I can clearly see why they suit Dumoulin and Pinot, maybe even Thomas. But I don't get the Kruijswijk TT hype. He doesn't have the most aero bone structure after all!

I don't really know either, but his Valdobbiane time trial was impressive, so thats probably why. However, that was at the start of the 3rd week where Kruisjwijk really got into his own that Giro and it was significantly longer which theoretically should suit him more (pretty much as hilly, probably a bit less).

So there's that. I think his level is about Quintana's, maybe slightly better (?) lets see, but he is by no means a specialist.
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12 May 2017 09:48

Valv.Piti wrote:
DFA123 wrote:Is Kruijswijk actually any good at flat and rolling TTs, like the ones in this Giro? Just been looking through his results and he's never done anything special - in fact, they are no better than Quintana's results, especially in GTs. Where's the expectation coming from that 70km of flat/rolling TTs are a good thing for him? I can clearly see why they suit Dumoulin and Pinot, maybe even Thomas. But I don't get the Kruijswijk TT hype. He doesn't have the most aero bone structure after all!

I don't really know either, but his Valdobbiane time trial was impressive, so thats probably why. However, that was at the start of the 3rd week where Kruisjwijk really got into his own that Giro and it was significantly longer which theoretically should suit him more (pretty much as hilly, probably a bit less).

So there's that. I think his level is about Quintana's, maybe slightly better (?) lets see, but he is by no means a specialist.

Yeah, that's about where I would put him based on his results. Somewhere around the same level as Quintana and Nibali. Competent, and can hold his own against most riders, but is certainly not going to gain significant time there.

Valdobbiadene certainly looks his best ever flat/rolling TT result; but even then he finished nearly a minute behind Contador. So it wasn't exactly a spectacular performance. I think this makes it very complicated for Kruijswjk to win the race, because he basically has to get his advantage in the mountains, up against Quintana - arguably the best climber of his generation and also Nibali, Yates, Landa who have shown a very high level in the recent past.

If I was him, and with the strong rouleur strength of his team, I'd be looking at some tactics to gain unexpected time on one of the medium mountain stages somewhere in the second week.
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Re: Steven Kruijswijk

14 May 2017 15:12

The crashes in Yorkshire and early this Giro was already an omen. Not the same form (partly due to the crashes I reckon). Sigh. He will think back his entire career of that one year he had the form to win the Giro. Never again.
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14 May 2017 15:14

Confirmed one hit wonder
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14 May 2017 15:17

SeriousSam wrote:Confirmed one hit wonder

Well that's also a bit harsch, considering good giro in 2011 and 2015 already.
Think he will still finish well inside the top 10 with a good 3rd week. But something like last year only happens once (like with Hesjedal)
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14 May 2017 15:18

Had an unique chance. Didn't take it. Will regret that his entire life.
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14 May 2017 15:40

SeriousSam wrote:Confirmed one hit wonder


Very true when he hit the ice wall.
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14 May 2017 15:41

Arredondo wrote:Had an unique chance. Didn't take it. Will regret that his entire life.


He was in the form of his life and not to take advantage of it will probably haunt him.
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14 May 2017 17:31

movingtarget wrote:
Arredondo wrote:Had an unique chance. Didn't take it. Will regret that his entire life.


He was in the form of his life and not to take advantage of it will probably haunt him.


I think (hope) these comments are premature. People forget at the time of his crash in last year's Giro he was absolutely demolishing Nibali - look at the MTT result!
Form of your life isn't an accident it can be replicated with the right prep and some good luck. One hit wonders are for bands not bike racers. Not sure what went wrong today but he can find out why and come back to avenge Giro 2016.
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14 May 2017 18:00

Looks like Dekker Tifosi was right.

He can still pull a top-5 off easily, but thats not really a huge deal. The stage to Bormio or Piancavallo should be his goal, he really needs a stage win in this race. So bittersweet that he didn't even get one last year.
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14 May 2017 18:05

Valv.Piti wrote:Looks like Dekker Tifosi was right.

He can still pull a top-5 off easily, but thats not really a huge deal. The stage to Bormio or Piancavallo should be his goal, he really needs a stage win in this race. So bittersweet that he didn't even get one last year.

You could see it in the earlier stages, just less sharp and less easy as last year. That Yorkshire crash is the main culprit.
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14 May 2017 18:09

i still believe. imminent attack on mortirolo.
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14 May 2017 18:31

Yeah I definately still expect firework in the 3rd week as usual. But the point is he can't reach much more than 6/7 now. Maybe 5th place if one of the top fail.
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14 May 2017 21:12

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Yeah I definately still expect firework in the 3rd week as usual. But the point is he can't reach much more than 6/7 now. Maybe 5th place if one of the top fail.

So he gets Mollema's spot then.

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14 May 2017 21:17

I'd rather seen him lose half an hour today and just go into breakaway/secretdumoulinoperativeshouldtomneedit mode.
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15 May 2017 02:15

Cookster15 wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
Arredondo wrote:Had an unique chance. Didn't take it. Will regret that his entire life.


He was in the form of his life and not to take advantage of it will probably haunt him.


I think (hope) these comments are premature. People forget at the time of his crash in last year's Giro he was absolutely demolishing Nibali - look at the MTT result!
Form of your life isn't an accident it can be replicated with the right prep and some good luck. One hit wonders are for bands not bike racers. Not sure what went wrong today but he can find out why and come back to avenge Giro 2016.


I think that's the point, it's not 2016 anymore. I still hope he can get a good result but to drop so much time on the first mountain stage that was really attacked, well it's not ideal. Riders always try to replicate optimum form but it's never easy to achieve.
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