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16 Aug 2016 12:42

Apparently it gets better..:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/olympics/sir-bradley-wiggins-claims-mole-in-team-gb-cycling-camp-attempted-to-sabotage-rio-success/ar-BBvG0fG?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

...But the 36-year-old insists he never saw the headlines as a 'huge problem', and dismissed the claims which led to Sutton's resignation as 'bitter people that didn't make the grade'.

"There was a bit of a campaign to almost sabotage the games from a British cycling point of view," he said in Rio. "There was obviously a mole in the camp.
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16 Aug 2016 13:29

I fail to see how IOC regulations for cyclocross relate to Wiggins, so let's drop it
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16 Aug 2016 14:06

Benotti69 wrote:Funny that Wiggins wants to start a women's team!

Goodluck to any ladies that dare ride for that team!!



why?
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16 Aug 2016 14:19

scurrrr wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:Funny that Wiggins wants to start a women's team!

Goodluck to any ladies that dare ride for that team!!



why?

Because Wiggins has shown himself to either be or associate himself with misogynists, and then take their sides in fueds.
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16 Aug 2016 14:40

If Sutton is misogynist, then so are most of the Aussie men I've met.

This may be the case, of course. It's not a big sample.

On a side note, Wiggins has sponsored Wiggle-Honda (now Wiggle-High 5) when it was set up. So he has form in supporting women's cycling (and not many do), just as he has form in being gobby and a bit of a melon at times. I don't think it's black and white.

On another side note, which really is a digression, Becky James probably wouldn't be at the Olympics if Sutton hadn't backed her through a long injury... which was also partly why the women's team sprint had problems, which is partly why Varnish spoke out and all the gubbins started coming out. A tangled web.
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16 Aug 2016 14:48

King Boonen wrote:Apparently it gets better..:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/olympics/sir-bradley-wiggins-claims-mole-in-team-gb-cycling-camp-attempted-to-sabotage-rio-success/ar-BBvG0fG?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

...But the 36-year-old insists he never saw the headlines as a 'huge problem', and dismissed the claims which led to Sutton's resignation as 'bitter people that didn't make the grade'.

"There was a bit of a campaign to almost sabotage the games from a British cycling point of view," he said in Rio. "There was obviously a mole in the camp.
...


Pendleton clearly backing Varnish against Sutton due to her bitterness over her own lack of success
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16 Aug 2016 14:56

PremierAndrew wrote:
King Boonen wrote:Apparently it gets better..:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/olympics/sir-bradley-wiggins-claims-mole-in-team-gb-cycling-camp-attempted-to-sabotage-rio-success/ar-BBvG0fG?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

...But the 36-year-old insists he never saw the headlines as a 'huge problem', and dismissed the claims which led to Sutton's resignation as 'bitter people that didn't make the grade'.

"There was a bit of a campaign to almost sabotage the games from a British cycling point of view," he said in Rio. "There was obviously a mole in the camp.
...


Pendleton clearly backing Varnish against Sutton due to her bitterness over her own lack of success


Kind of get the sense that Dave Brailsford and Steve Peters often acted as good cop to Shane's bad.
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16 Aug 2016 15:00

MatParker117 wrote:
PremierAndrew wrote:
King Boonen wrote:Apparently it gets better..:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/olympics/sir-bradley-wiggins-claims-mole-in-team-gb-cycling-camp-attempted-to-sabotage-rio-success/ar-BBvG0fG?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

...But the 36-year-old insists he never saw the headlines as a 'huge problem', and dismissed the claims which led to Sutton's resignation as 'bitter people that didn't make the grade'.

"There was a bit of a campaign to almost sabotage the games from a British cycling point of view," he said in Rio. "There was obviously a mole in the camp.
...


Pendleton clearly backing Varnish against Sutton due to her bitterness over her own lack of success


Kind of get the sense that Dave Brailsford and Steve Peters often acted as good cop to Shane's bad.


I dont think Sutton 'acted', i think it was real.

Brailsford doesn't come out of it smelling of roses either.
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16 Aug 2016 15:03

PremierAndrew wrote:
King Boonen wrote:Apparently it gets better..:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/olympics/sir-bradley-wiggins-claims-mole-in-team-gb-cycling-camp-attempted-to-sabotage-rio-success/ar-BBvG0fG?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

...But the 36-year-old insists he never saw the headlines as a 'huge problem', and dismissed the claims which led to Sutton's resignation as 'bitter people that didn't make the grade'.

"There was a bit of a campaign to almost sabotage the games from a British cycling point of view," he said in Rio. "There was obviously a mole in the camp.
...


Pendleton clearly backing Varnish against Sutton due to her bitterness over her own lack of success


Yes. The allegation of there being "... a mole in the camp." is borderline crazy too. Lost any respect I had for him after that I'm afraid.
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16 Aug 2016 15:05

Sir Bradley not throwing under the bus the person he characterised as “the only person who understands me inside and out” and credits with his Great Triumphs?

I'm shocked.
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16 Aug 2016 15:15

SeriousSam wrote:Sir Bradley not throwing under the bus the person he characterised as “the only person who understands me inside and out” and credits with his Great Triumphs?

I'm shocked.


There is a place in between the two extremes. It's massive and has plenty of place for people to stand, but they rarely seem to choose it.
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16 Aug 2016 22:01

Whatever there is to be said of Sutton's behavior I love the comments of late that think he has had had nothing to do with their current successes. That the boogeyman has now gone and athletes are suddenly winning in spite of him. Pretty naive. They were already winning and continue to do so. If Wiggins comments are not true or at least honest why aren't the so called victims getting stuck into him on social media ? Or are they ? Whatever has happened it seems that the Great Britain cycling program is still in good order. Sutton should move on as i am sure other teams would be happy to have him. Teams sign former dopers without an issue so abrasive so called misogynists would also have a place but maybe outside the UK and maybe stick with the men's teams instead. I guess misanthropy is not illegal.
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16 Aug 2016 22:57

movingtarget wrote:Whatever there is to be said of Sutton's behavior I love the comments of late that think he has had had nothing to do with their current successes. That the boogeyman has now gone and athletes are suddenly winning in spite of him. Pretty naive. They were already winning and continue to do so. If Wiggins comments are not true or at least honest why aren't the so called victims getting stuck into him on social media ? Or are they ? Whatever has happened it seems that the Great Britain cycling program is still in good order. Sutton should move on as i am sure other teams would be happy to have him. Teams sign former dopers without an issue so abrasive so called misogynists would also have a place but maybe outside the UK and maybe stick with the men's teams instead. I guess misanthropy is not illegal.


exactly, Sutton has been part of the successes and helped to build the ones they had this week
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06 Sep 2016 01:55

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06 Sep 2016 02:53

And he is 119 th in the GC at T of B :rolleyes: don't know what it's the most funny
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06 Sep 2016 04:19

CTQ wrote:And he is 119 th in the GC at T of B :rolleyes: don't know what it's the most funny


That's no surprise. He has no desire to duke it out in the hills with his weight and lack of specific training.
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06 Sep 2016 06:44

anything to stay relevant... 1 hit wonder cyclist and even that was a gifted by Froome.
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06 Sep 2016 07:39

burning wrote:Riis was a world class TT'er and a ridiculous climber for a short period of time. Wiggins was the best TT'er and very good climber for a short period of time. His pursuit ability doesn't have much significance in overall picture.

Theae guys are very comparable but I know that it is pretty much impossible to argue with a British guy.

riis was never a world class itt'r even when he was fully juiced he was never the best. I think he has won a grand total of one itt in his whole career, which was an itt in tour of denmark :rolleyes:
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06 Sep 2016 07:41

Red Rick wrote:I thought Belgians did their cycling in the winter in the mud.

that "sport" is far more ridiculous than trackcycling, which is a huge sport. just look at the budgets of the better nations
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