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11 Sep 2016 22:06

MmeDesgrange wrote:I have no problem with Wiggins investing in a women's team - the more high profile names that attach themselves to the sport, the better.

The more pertinent question for me is, am I comfortable with someone with Wiggins' views being in the sport? Is the trade off worth it.

Pragmatically - yes. His involvement, if it happens, should have a positive impact on the sport. All the better if he is the magnet for sponsors and investment but stays behind the scenes. I suspect his commitment to the women's sport is akin to Cookson's - it's a nice piece of PR fluff that makes him look good but doesn't actually have to be actioned. Somewhat like the charity/not actually a charity.

Thanks in large part to Mr. Cookson, there is a very real chance
a women's madison could be on the program at the Tokyo Oly's.

We had a women's madison at the recent UCI World Junior Track
Championships and the event is set to make it's debut at the
UCI World Cup in Glasgow this November.

Perhaps Sir Brad, with his knowledge of madison racing, will be
the coach and mentor of the very first Olympic Champions in
the women's madison. :)

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Re: Wiggins Discussion thread.

28 Apr 2017 18:13

Happy birthday Sir Brad! Hope you're having a lovely day.
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Re: Wiggins Discussion thread.

08 Dec 2017 16:46

Best of luck to Sir Brad tomorrow at the sold-out Lee Valley Velodrome
for the British Rowing Indoor Championships. I wonder what Rebecca
Romero thinks about our most decorated Olympian switching sports?
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Re: Wiggins Discussion thread.

26 Apr 2018 19:57

From the Valverde thread:
toolittle wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Wiggins? Seriously? I'm not even sure Pisti rates Wiggins over Valverde


Peoples are always view things differently.

Bradley Wiggins careeer is extra-ordinary. Not as many people joined road race so late but still succeed. Not so many people transform from Track/MTB/CX then road and then back to Track/MTB/CX are still in the top of the worlds in 3 sections of careers.

I think I shouldn't talked too much about Wiggins inside Valverde threa. Just a reply there and I will stop.

My evaluation of Bradley Wiggins

He started from Track cycling. He won pursuits and madisons within Velodrome and end his career inside velodrome with olympic 4 olympic gold medals and 7 world championship titles. (Inside Track only)

He turned his attention to road after 2008 Olympic when he was 29 and came back to Track again when he was 34 @ 2014 seasons end.

Within these 5 years, he completed 2 transformations : from Track and then to Track.
He won 4 x WT Stages races and 1 TDF. Podium in Veulta. 1 x Olympic TT and 1 x WCTT under the completion with Tony Martin and Fabian Cancellera.

At 2015, he marked hours record as 54.5km when he was 35. No one could come close.

Within last 2 decades, not that much people could have similar success within 5 years of completion. If you think transformation must take 1 year at least. Wiggins real career in road completion is only 3 years.

Let take 5 of best years from Valverde career, you could see how good Wiggins done.
Wiggins is a king but with 14 crowns.
Valverde is a king without any crown.

Youtube records most of the racing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYm2ECRk8R4&t=237s
This is a kind of hilly classic king winning... Check out others. For example simon gerrans and Valverde.

I get that in Britain Wiggins is considered one of the greatest if not the greatest cyclist of his country. He won many olympic medals and he is the first British tdf winner but the main difference between how I evaluate his palmares compared to how British people evaluate his palmares is that I don't care if he was the first tour winner of his country and that I don't think track cycling matters that much on the palmares of a road racer. The fact is, track cycling is way smaller than road cycling and for that reason many riders who could be superb track cyclists don't even try that discipline. What if Cancellara had grown up in Britain? He probably would have started his career as a track cyclist and I'm pretty damn sure he would have been successful. I rate mountain bike, cyclocross and every other discipline (except road) on one level with track cycling. So if I would evaluate Wiggins track success to an extend which makes me think he is the greatest of the century I'd have to rate someone like Stybar extremely high too.

I rate his whole track success as high as a tdf and if I'm generous maybe a 2nd minor gt win, but if you do that he still doesn't get close to best rider of this century.
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