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Tejay Van Garderen Discussion Thread

30 Jan 2012 14:52

Just wondering what peoples thoughts will be on Tejay Van Garderen's season will be. New team focusing on what he wants to do. Help Cadel and lead races like Cali or Paris Nice. Then maybe when Cadel retires take over the leadership role.

So will Tejay be a hit or a flop this season?
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30 Jan 2012 14:53

ok there was meant to be a poll but this is my first start to a threat!!! Did try and put one in but didn't work.
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30 Jan 2012 14:58

imo he will have a chanse on vuelta or giro
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30 Jan 2012 14:58

sky forever wrote:ok there was meant to be a poll but this is my first start to a threat!!! Did try and put one in but didn't work.


No need for threats surely.

I vote flop.
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30 Jan 2012 15:10

Lots of teams could have given him a decent shot at leadership. Sadly he will get lost beneath the weight of egos at BMC
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30 Jan 2012 15:12

in my opinion he is an undevelopment rider. 1 week stage races and help Cadel should be a good (and neccesary) goal
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30 Jan 2012 15:37

Sofía_ wrote:in my opinion he is an undevelopment rider. 1 week stage races and help Cadel should be a good (and neccesary) goal

Undevelopment... that's a cool word ;)

I think this year's Paris-Nice course could be good for Tejay... nice prologue, not a crazy amount of climbing, an MTT on a power climb. Top 5 is certainly possible.
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30 Jan 2012 15:40

Very poor Man's Tony Martin
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30 Jan 2012 15:43

Bavarianrider wrote:Very poor Man's Tony Martin

- 10 kgs ;)
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30 Jan 2012 15:48

Bavarianrider wrote:Very poor Man's Tony Martin


Tejay can definitely climb better and will become much better climber than Tony will ever be ;)
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30 Jan 2012 15:49

Bavarianrider wrote:Very poor Man's Tony Martin

A bit of respect please for the guy who paced Tony to a Paris-Nice win.
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30 Jan 2012 16:01

Gloin22 wrote:Tejay can definitely climb better and will become much better climber than Tony will ever be ;)


very true... Tony can already climb much better and training with Cadel will help TJ big time.
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30 Jan 2012 16:09

gustienordic wrote:training with Cadel will help TJ big time.


Thats what i was thinking. Just hope it works for the guy!!!!
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30 Jan 2012 16:13

gustienordic wrote:very true... Tony can already climb much better and training with Cadel will help TJ big time.

That's kind of nonsense... if the BMC guys have been training with Cadel the past seasons, it hasn't made them much better.
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30 Jan 2012 16:17

Let me down last year by scoring fewer CQ points than the previous year.
Despite all the inevitable positive hype, will probably stay as a second tier GC boy, a la Jani Brajkovic.
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30 Jan 2012 16:21

theyoungest wrote:That's kind of nonsense... if the BMC guys have been training with Cadel the past seasons, it hasn't made them much better.


He however does make a point that training with a big cyclist can make you better. Hushovd said he climbs better now than in the past because he often trains together with Gilbert. Of course, BMC guys haven't really improved much in past seasons, but who says they trained together with Evans? Cyclists usually train alone except on stages. Plus you need some level of talent before anyone will notice an improvement ;) Evans was the only climber in BMC until now.
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30 Jan 2012 16:55

Mellow Velo wrote:Let me down last year by scoring fewer CQ points than the previous year.
Despite all the inevitable positive hype, will probably stay as a second tier GC boy, a la Jani Brajkovic.


He's a level below Jani at the moment.
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30 Jan 2012 17:05

Waterloo Sunrise wrote:He's a level below Jani at the moment.

Agreed.
J B's level is about where I see him plateauing.
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30 Jan 2012 17:09

Mellow Velo wrote:Agreed.
J B's level is about where I see him plateauing.


Makes sense.

I got in trouble with some Americans for questioning his once in a generation talent during the Tour of Utah, but he did basically nothing last year, and the year before his best result involved dragging himself up a hill looking very very uncomfortable despite Horner's best attempts to tow him.
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30 Jan 2012 17:32

I think he well be able to do well in the American races like california, and the US Pro Challenge, but I don't expect much from him in the GT and other European races this season. One day I think he could be a Leipheimer-like GC contender, able to not loose much time on the hills but then take lots of time in the TT.
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