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Which one is the best race: Tirreno-Adriatico or Paris Nice?

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Which one is the best race?

Tirreno-Adriatico
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Paris-Nice
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Total votes : 188

09 Mar 2012 16:17

T-A usually has 4 totally boring days and besides last year P-N was always better.
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09 Mar 2012 18:12

OK, I'll give you this: Both races are sh*t, this year.
P-N's Queen stage was bland and T-A's just had one of it's b*lls removed.:o
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10 Mar 2012 01:31

Paris is Nice.
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10 Mar 2012 01:49

Paris-Nice is a much better race.
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10 Mar 2012 02:12

any Belgian semi-classic is better than these 2 training races, bring on Nokere-Koerse & Gent-Wevelgem

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10 Mar 2012 03:16

CobbleStoner wrote:any Belgian semi-classic is better than these 2 training races, bring on Nokere-Koerse & Gent-Wevelgem

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+1 much more action, much more exciting.
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13 Mar 2012 07:35

Well, if we look at posts/thread for every stage (before last stage of TA), we have 357 post/day for PN and 289 for TA.
So clearly, PN had more attention from us.
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13 Mar 2012 11:46

Normally, I prefer PN. But this year, TA, had more interesting finishes.

I have a question concerning which one is the best preparation for MSR. They usually say it's TA, mainly because of its timing, it ends just 3 days before MSR. But what i don't understand, if that's the case, why would the MSR contenders pull out of the race on sunday., which is the same day when PN ends. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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13 Mar 2012 12:01

I thought last year's PN the lesser and this year TA is slightly under its "twin." Today's ITT may change that. Terrific final. Wiggins and Weasta as well in PN.
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13 Mar 2012 12:48

Both have been pretty poor this year (although to be fair to T-A, the removal of Passo Lanciano pretty much ruined it's queen stage), so I'll choose P-N based in history and prestige. Have to concede that T-A has been a bit better race this year (again) though.
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13 Mar 2012 13:21

voted TA when the poll was created and still maintain my opinion
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15 Mar 2012 10:12

For some reason i did not like T-A as much this year, though i did not follow it as much.

It was better last year but i liked P-N because of Vac and the fact the GC battle was close and representative of the TDF route.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

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15 Mar 2012 10:26

greenedge wrote:For some reason i did not like T-A as much this year, though i did not follow it as much.

It was better last year but i liked P-N because of Vac and the fact the GC battle was close and representative of the TDF route.


i know it's down to a personal opinion, but i would say that the GC battle in TA was much better then in PN where you pretty much knew who was going to win after stage 1 and only had 1 meaningful stage GC wise after that.

in TA we had the strongest rider fighting back all the way down to te last stage
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15 Mar 2012 20:36

I liked em both this year. Tirreno is usually exciting because of all of the short steep finishes.
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15 Mar 2012 20:42

Usually Tirreno, but they were both a bit crap this year, though they had worthy winners. Steephill finishes >> MTFs for one week races.
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15 Mar 2012 20:49

Parrulo wrote:i know it's down to a personal opinion, but i would say that the GC battle in TA was much better then in PN where you pretty much knew who was going to win after stage 1 and only had 1 meaningful stage GC wise after that.

in TA we had the strongest rider fighting back all the way down to te last stage



Err

Parrulo wrote:the win in mende is very likely as it is like for wiggins to lose a few seconds there because it's a very explosive climb, PN is far from over and wiggins is far from having it in the bad like some were already saying yesterday


Parrulo wrote:no way in hell will movistar allow a break to stay clear with bonus secs on the line. The question imo isn't who is going to win, that's clearly piti, the question is how well will wiggins manage his losses? he can win PN before we even get to the itt with a good performance here but since he is a diesel for the longer climbs i will say he will lose about 30 secs+ bonus to valverde which should make the final itt super interesting.


And of course after Mende Wiggins still had competition
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16 Mar 2012 09:05

Parrulo wrote:i know it's down to a personal opinion, but i would say that the GC battle in TA was much better then in PN where you pretty much knew who was going to win after stage 1 and only had 1 meaningful stage GC wise after that.

in TA we had the strongest rider fighting back all the way down to te last stage


True but as i said i did not watch many of the stages ( except for Sagans' ) and both were close. Maybe i was disappointed that Kreuziger did not win.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

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16 Mar 2012 11:26

Well I have to say Tirreno because Wiggins won Paris Nice and I don't like him very much :D

Still it's impossible not to recognize that Sky is the most well rounded team for stage races. They are really riding at a great level. If they had another leader I would be cheering for them :)

About Tirreno, I think it's Nibali's biggest win. Yeah he won the Vuelta but I really enjoyed the way he rode here. Kreuziguer disappointed me a bit by not trying anything on Prato di Tivo and even helping Horner keeping Nibali close.

Paris Nice was really a Vacansoleil-Sky show. Westra was a big surprise and it'll be interesting to see if he can become a one-week rider and one to go on breaks on GT mountain stages. It seems that De Ghendt is riding the Giro. I have high hopes for him on GT's based on Alpe d'Huez and Grenoble in last years TdF.
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06 Jan 2013 19:25

Looks like Contador and Wiggins will both be racing Tirreno this year.

The walls in Tirreno are probably too short for Bertie and too steep for Wiggo. May be too early in the year for Bertie, but he'll have a lot to prove vs. Wiggo, who should be at his 95% (if like last year).

Bring it on. Three months to go. :D
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06 Jan 2013 20:40

I hope RCS comes up with a big mountain or two. I hope it's more than walls and tt. Last years route was great. Maybe they'll include Lanciano again hoping it will make the actual race
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