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15 Dec 2017 21:11

Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life
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15 Dec 2017 22:07

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deValtos wrote:Playing the "what if" game for a second ...

If Froome wasn't in the Vuelta do we reckon Nibali would've finished first?

Or would the dynamic be so different that Contador would've won?

Most certainly IMO. Contador was stronger than Nibali was. Without Sky, Im pretty sure Contador would have won!



That was my first thought when i read the notice about Froome. And it was sad for me, and i believe for him( Contador)...
Some people can argue that Nibali was 2nd., and in fact it was, but wthout team sky it would have been a diferent game, without them Contador attacks had produced bigger gaps and much more trouble to the other riders because it´s sky train that follow him... Contador would have won that vuelta. That it´s very sad. It´s sad for him, it´s sad for Nibali that didn´t was able to get the feeling of win it ( or not) in the field...

I just don´t understand if UCI knew that Froome produced that result how they allowed hom to win that vuelta and participate in the worlds. Something is wrong and i´m affraid that cycling ( my favorite sport) regress again to the eyes of the people and sponsors... It´s a shame, cycling was getting better without so much doping cases.

Let´s wait and see what is going to happen next, but i´m really sad that Contador didn´t end the carreer with a victory in his last GT.
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16 Dec 2017 10:34

Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life


Apparently after talking with Rik Verbrugghe (hired by Bahrain in September as a sports director) Nibali proposed Ronde van Vlaanderen. Rik says that "Nothing definitive has been decided yet, but in view of a Tour with a heavy cobbled ride, this seems like a good choice" "Bahrain-Merida has only four Flemish races oriented riders, so Vincenzo does not take anyone's place. The Ronde is also perfect in the Ardennes classics, Paris-Roubaix is ​​not."
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16 Dec 2017 11:09

Rollthedice wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life


Apparently after talking with Rik Verbrugghe (hired by Bahrain in September as a sports director) Nibali proposed Ronde van Vlaanderen. Rik says that "Nothing definitive has been decided yet, but in view of a Tour with a heavy cobbled ride, this seems like a good choice" "Bahrain-Merida has only four Flemish races oriented riders, so Vincenzo does not take anyone's place. The Ronde is also perfect in the Ardennes classics, Paris-Roubaix is ​​not."

That's certainly true. Roubaix is more dangerous, probably requires a lot more recovery, and de Ronde has a lot more precedent for Ardennes riders mixing it in.

Who's the designated leader, Colbrelli? Anyway, Nibali has nothing to lose, so I'd be hoping for him to make a speculative move.
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16 Dec 2017 12:17

Interesting, I recently had a discussion with my uncle about who was the most complete cyclist in the pro peloton. I went with the shark, he went El Imbatido.

Anyways, Verbrugghe should be able to guide him safely true the cobbles, and perhaps he'll leave wanting more ;)
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16 Dec 2017 13:17

GenericBoonenFan wrote:Interesting, I recently had a discussion with my uncle about who was the most complete cyclist in the pro peloton. I went with the shark, he went El Imbatido.

Anyways, Verbrugghe should be able to guide him safely true the cobbles, and perhaps he'll leave wanting more ;)

It always boils down to versatility in abilities to versatility in race coverage.
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16 Dec 2017 13:24

GenericBoonenFan wrote:Interesting, I recently had a discussion with my uncle about who was the most complete cyclist in the pro peloton. I went with the shark, he went El Imbatido.

Anyways, Verbrugghe should be able to guide him safely true the cobbles, and perhaps he'll leave wanting more ;)


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16 Dec 2017 13:30

Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life

YES please!
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16 Dec 2017 19:36

Oh man, so much more relaxed after going to TBM!
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17 Dec 2017 08:09

And to think I disliked Nibali before 2014 lol.
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17 Dec 2017 10:59

Climbing wrote:Oh man, so much more relaxed after going to TBM!


He definitely is... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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17 Dec 2017 11:00

huge wrote:
Climbing wrote:Oh man, so much more relaxed after going to TBM!


He definitely is... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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17 Dec 2017 14:05

Red Rick wrote:
huge wrote:
Climbing wrote:Oh man, so much more relaxed after going to TBM!


He definitely is... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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"How's that coffee Vincenzo?"


Well if Froome can double dose, watch me go after this!
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18 Dec 2017 12:07

Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life

I won't surprised if he finish top 10
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18 Dec 2017 13:23

Alpe-Thibaut wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life

I won't surprised if he finish top 10


It is not certain he'll take part and given that there are 20 days from Ronde to his target LBL he might not be ready to contest anything. He said he doesn't even know what to expect in Ronde if he goes. On the other hand either a suicide attack on Cote de Cherave or top 10 in Fleche is to be expected.
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18 Dec 2017 15:17

Rollthedice wrote:
Alpe-Thibaut wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life

I won't surprised if he finish top 10


It is not certain he'll take part and given that there are 20 days from Ronde to his target LBL he might not be ready to contest anything. He said he doesn't even know what to expect in Ronde if he goes. On the other hand either a suicide attack on Cote de Cherave or top 10 in Fleche is to be expected.

Is he planning on riding the Amstel?
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Alpe-Thibaut wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life

I won't surprised if he finish top 10


It is not certain he'll take part and given that there are 20 days from Ronde to his target LBL he might not be ready to contest anything. He said he doesn't even know what to expect in Ronde if he goes. On the other hand either a suicide attack on Cote de Cherave or top 10 in Fleche is to be expected.


If he goes to the Ronde he'll be going with little ambition indeed. I don't expect any result in de Ronde at all, and it's just to get used to riding on cobbles in a peloton again, without the risk of PR.

However, he might like the experience of the Ronde itself and have a shot at it in the near future. Let's hope for that. He isn't getting any younger, so if he wants to add more monuments to his palmares, it's time he starts riding (and focusing on) them ;-)
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18 Dec 2017 16:02

Red Rick wrote:
Rollthedice wrote:
Alpe-Thibaut wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life

I won't surprised if he finish top 10


It is not certain he'll take part and given that there are 20 days from Ronde to his target LBL he might not be ready to contest anything. He said he doesn't even know what to expect in Ronde if he goes. On the other hand either a suicide attack on Cote de Cherave or top 10 in Fleche is to be expected.

Is he planning on riding the Amstel?


Yes.
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18 Dec 2017 16:09

jsem94 wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Nibali in the Ronde? I need this in my life

YES please!


YES :)
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19 Dec 2017 02:47

Just realising that Nibali could one day end up with as many GT's as Contador. '17 Vuelta, '18 Tour, '19 Giro?

Never thought I would ever see the day. Well I may not, but I might.
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