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11 Feb 2018 18:42

One logical possible team for Vincenzo could be Domenico Pozzovivo, Franco Pellizotti, Ion Izagirre, Gorka Izagirre, Ramunas Navardauskas, Sonny Colbrelli and Kristijan Koren. Looks good, hopefully everybody will stay safe until July.
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11 Feb 2018 18:44

Perhaps Boaro or Siutsou for the TTT?
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11 Feb 2018 18:46

Netserk wrote:Perhaps Boaro or Siutsou for the TTT?

Before San Juan they said that they still don't know if Siutsou will be the rider that he used to be after coming back from that horrible crash.
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11 Feb 2018 18:53

Oh, ****; I completely forgot about that.
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11 Feb 2018 20:01

Rollthedice wrote:One logical possible team for Vincenzo could be Domenico Pozzovivo, Franco Pellizotti, Ion Izagirre, Gorka Izagirre, Ramunas Navardauskas, Sonny Colbrelli and Kristijan Koren. Looks good, hopefully everybody will stay safe until July.


Quite an improvement compared to last year. At least they have some kind of choice now on what riders to bring.
I dont know if i would bring haussler to a 3 week stage race tbh.
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10 Mar 2018 20:05

16th today at 26s. Seems a fair bit better than last year, about a month until the Ardennes
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10 Mar 2018 20:08

Red Rick wrote:16th today at 26s. Seems a fair bit better than last year, about a month until the Ardennes

Yeah and more importantly he only lost 6s to the main group yesterday on a 20% finish, which bodes well for April. I'm expecting/hoping a kamikaze attack tomorrow, especially as bahrain also have Pozzo high in GC.
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10 Mar 2018 20:12

Red Rick wrote:16th today at 26s. Seems a fair bit better than last year, about a month until the Ardennes

I agree he seems allright. Still, I hoped for a bit more after he was quite good on the murito yesterday by his standards. Probably it was just me though since Lombardia seems ages ago now, I definetely need my Vincenzo-on-fire dose again ;)
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10 Mar 2018 20:24

Yeah, looks good for the Ardennes, I guess, but he needs to be in absolute top shape to win L-B-L. The other two he really doesn't stand a chance. It bodes well for the Tour that the Izagirre brothers are doing well, they will be able to help him in all sorts of terrain, but especially the TTT and mountains. Two great and versatile domestiques.
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10 Mar 2018 20:34

I am very eager to see how he does in the Ronde. He needs to be an example to all those other climbers that it is possible for them to play their part in that race. Valverde could win that thing.
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10 Mar 2018 23:56

DNP-Old wrote:I am very eager to see how he does in the Ronde. He needs to be an example to all those other climbers that it is possible for them to play their part in that race. Valverde could win that thing.

:lol:

This takes the biscuit as this week's most fruity statement.
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11 Mar 2018 00:06

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DNP-Old wrote:I am very eager to see how he does in the Ronde. He needs to be an example to all those other climbers that it is possible for them to play their part in that race. Valverde could win that thing.

:lol:

This takes the biscuit as this week's most fruity statement.

Gilbert won it, why couldn't Valverde? Lmao, an inferior talent like Boogerd actually managed to come close. Even Hoogerland nearly top 10'd that race on multiple occasions.
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11 Mar 2018 00:16

Gilbert who has won Omloop with long solos a decade ago? Who was twice on the podium in Ronde before he was on the podium in Liège? Gilbert was never as light as Valverde, and he showed from the start of his career that he could ride the cobbled classics. Valverde doesn't have the positioning nor the raw power for it. He needs longer climbs.
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11 Mar 2018 00:22

The difference between Valverde and Gilbert is 6 kilo's. De Ronde tends to get overrated as a cobble classic. Year in, year out you'll see names who wouldn't even think of starting in Roubaix. We're talking about one of the most talented riders ever here, not your ordinary, forgettable star. Give Valverde a year and he contends in that thing.
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11 Mar 2018 00:29

Well according to Valverde Ronde is tentatively on his calendar. Also due to the cobbled stage of the Tour Movistar has said they are sending all 3 of their GC riders to a cobbled race. They've already announced Landa to one or two of the cobbled races during Catalunya, Quintana to Dwars, that leave Ronde for Valverde. Now the question is rather he actually goes to it or not. Who knows maybe with Nibali actually going it will help convince him to go as well.
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11 Mar 2018 08:34

Yeah there's no way either Nibali or Valverde could win De Ronde. Gilbert winning it is not really an argument cause he had a decade long history with the cobbled classics at that point, and for however much he loves his LBL, he only had the climbing level to win in 2010 and 2011.

Knowing the race the route and where you need to be in front and jocking for positions is so ridiculously important, and I'm also very sure that climbers like Valverde and Nibali don't have the raw power for the Oude Kwaremont.
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11 Mar 2018 09:40

I stand by my statement. We're like a decade away from Karsten Kroon coming 4th. If he can, then so can superior talents like Nibali and Valverde. If Nibali starts in De Ronde, with the mindset to win, I'm backing him to go a long way.
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11 Mar 2018 13:17

DNP-Old wrote:
Netserk wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:I am very eager to see how he does in the Ronde. He needs to be an example to all those other climbers that it is possible for them to play their part in that race. Valverde could win that thing.

:lol:

This takes the biscuit as this week's most fruity statement.

Gilbert won it, why couldn't Valverde? Lmao, an inferior talent like Boogerd actually managed to come close. Even Hoogerland nearly top 10'd that race on multiple occasions.


Gilbert has also won the Amstel Gold Race four times, which has similar twists and turns as the Ronde van Vlaanderen.
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11 Mar 2018 14:40

I'd back Nibali to do well in Ronde over Valverde any day.
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11 Mar 2018 14:52

Netserk wrote:I'd back Nibali to do well in Ronde over Valverde any day.

Which one?
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