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Re: Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

31 May 2018 18:52

Gigs_98 wrote:Yeah, I think this is a logical decision too. Only the dauphine was already very little in the past and resulted in a bad early shape in 2015. Now that the tour is even further away from the dauphine, this as his final prep race would most certainly not be enough. Also, as Nibali usually gets better in the 2nd half of a gt I can't see him fading in the third week despite an additional prep race. The only question is whether he pays for these added racing days in fall when he goes for the WC

2015 was more the crash on stage 6 or something than anything else. He was pretty solid in the prologue and on the Mur. He was also by far the most agressive on the cobbles but that stage simply wasn't hard enough.
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31 May 2018 19:05

You mean 2015 where he was dropped by Froome on the cobbles? lol

https://youtu.be/2W6oN4AUYGY?t=1h52m58s

Yeah he was lucky it wasn't hard, he would have lost time.
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31 May 2018 19:43

Go troll somewhere else, and buy a couple of glasses.
Plus refresh your memory how to ride cobbles... :lol:
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31 May 2018 19:44

hazaran wrote:You mean 2015 where he was dropped by Froome on the cobbles? lol

https://youtu.be/2W6oN4AUYGY?t=1h52m58s

Yeah he was lucky it wasn't hard, he would have lost time.


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Re: Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

31 May 2018 20:09

skippo12 wrote:Just read: No GC-ambitions for Dauphine...will go stage hunting.

I think most of us expected it and considering the delayed Tour start this year it is the right decision.

His declarations on the team website ahead of Dauphine are different.

“I have not run the Critérium for a few years and I am happy to come back. I have just finished 2 weeks training camp in Teide and the race will help me to see at what point of the programme I am in sight of the Tour de France. I would like to do well in some stages, maybe that of La Rosiere that I will face again in July, and get a good position in the general classification“.
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01 Jun 2018 08:02

It has been known for a while, though team composition for the TdF is pretty much confirmed (unless some of the riders have problems along the way):
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01 Jun 2018 21:56

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Rollthedice wrote:I am not so sure if he'll be at Adriatica Ionica. Dauphine finishes on the 10th, Adriatica is 20-24. Before the Tour he will go for a final training camp on San Pellegrino like every year so when will that fit?


10 days before, 10 days after!


From 13 to 24 June training altitude San Pellegrino, the usual before Le Tour, June 30 Italian Championships. Apparently he was testing sprints with Sonny on Teide for the road race in Boario Terme.
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Re: Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

01 Jun 2018 22:11

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skippo12 wrote:Just read: No GC-ambitions for Dauphine...will go stage hunting.

I think most of us expected it and considering the delayed Tour start this year it is the right decision.

His declarations on the team website ahead of Dauphine are different.

“I have not run the Critérium for a few years and I am happy to come back. I have just finished 2 weeks training camp in Teide and the race will help me to see at what point of the programme I am in sight of the Tour de France. I would like to do well in some stages, maybe that of La Rosiere that I will face again in July, and get a good position in the general classification“.


As we saw last year; winning a couple of stages can be a pretty good way to win the overall.
Though, I dunno how the team stacks up in the TTT
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Re: Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

02 Jun 2018 00:32

Vai Vincenzo Nibali! There are trap stages, do a '14 again.
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Re: Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

03 Jun 2018 01:50

Plenty of time between the Dauphine and the Tour to practice the explosive attacks of Contador and Froome like 2014 :lol:
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03 Jun 2018 22:01

Slower than Bardet on a TT bike.

It's time to worry.
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03 Jun 2018 22:02

Not really, Nibali kinda did what was expected, Bardet was extraordinary, relatively speaking..
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03 Jun 2018 22:17

Time to worry after one very short TT?
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03 Jun 2018 23:10

rick james wrote:Time to worry after one very short TT?

Contador is retired. The hypochondriacs gotta go somewhere ;)
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03 Jun 2018 23:18

A lot of good TT riders find the prologues too short which is often why sprinters do well in them.
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04 Jun 2018 05:15

No problemo. The idea for the Dauphine is to finish safely the race. Then on the San Pellegrino camp the final prep will take place. Teide was more on volume, resistance and aerobic training, quality follows in the Dolomites. He should be good in the Italian Championships, if not then it's worry time. Slongo says he needs to shed another kilo and a half and gain another 10 watts or so.
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04 Jun 2018 08:29

Rollthedice wrote:No problemo. The idea for the Dauphine is to finish safely the race. Then on the San Pellegrino camp the final prep will take place. Teide was more on volume, resistance and aerobic training, quality follows in the Dolomites. He should be good in the Italian Championships, if not then it's worry time. Slongo says he needs to shed another kilo and a half and gain another 10 watts or so.


He’s doing another altitude block as usual before the NC (13-24 june, no Ionica race), so I don’t think he’ll be that good there.
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04 Jun 2018 09:05

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Rollthedice wrote:No problemo. The idea for the Dauphine is to finish safely the race. Then on the San Pellegrino camp the final prep will take place. Teide was more on volume, resistance and aerobic training, quality follows in the Dolomites. He should be good in the Italian Championships, if not then it's worry time. Slongo says he needs to shed another kilo and a half and gain another 10 watts or so.


He’s doing another altitude block as usual before the NC (13-24 june, no Ionica race), so I don’t think he’ll be that good there.


The road race is on June 30, one week before the start of Le Tour and it will be a difficult parcours which could suit him well enough. It will be held in Darfo Boario Terme, 238 km total and quite different from when Giacomo Nizzolo won in 2016. Cassani asked for a tougher race so first there will be four laps of a circuit 25.4 each with the climbs Gianico 1.2 km at 6.5% and the murito Via Cornaleto 330m at 17% for eight times. Then the second circuit again four times with the climb Berzi Inferiore, 2Km at 6% with 10% parts and again the murito, last time at 2.5 km to finish. I think Nibali must go for it and he should be ready, there's one week since he'll come down from altitude.
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04 Jun 2018 09:45

Yeah, mostly competition will not be impossible, though the course isn't that hard even with Cassani's changes, so Nibali isn't the main favorite imho.
I expect a decent performance and be up there with the best for sure.
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08 Jun 2018 00:45

26th today. About where we expected him?
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