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Re: Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

06 May 2017 20:40

Interview with Don Alberto (in Spanish):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPXvNeYgiHA
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Re: Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

06 May 2017 20:53

IMA wrote:Interview with Don Alberto (in Spanish):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPXvNeYgiHA

Thanks for sharing :) :)
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07 May 2017 08:47

Did he say anything interesting?
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07 May 2017 13:09

My pleasure, LaFlorecita. :)

Red Rick wrote:Did he say anything interesting?


Some interesting points:

-He said his Specialized was 400 grs heavier than some of his rivals´bikes in 2016.

-In the training camp in El Teide before the start of the season he took it easier than in 2016, because he´s 100% focused on le tour. Also that he´s very happy with how he´s recovering from the spring races and with his team.

He´s focused on reaching the same physical level than Froome or Quintana in july. Only if that doesn´t happen he´ll try to defeat them through strategy.

-He´ll take it easy in Dauphiné. He´ll only test his legs in one or two stages.
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07 May 2017 13:26

Berto going for that elusive first victory of the season in Dauphiné :)

Is there a TT? If yes, that'll definitely be a stage to test his level compared to Froome.
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07 May 2017 13:40

LaFlorecita wrote:Berto going for that elusive first victory of the season in Dauphiné :)

Is there a TT? If yes, that'll definitely be a stage to test his level compared to Froome.

Yes there is. Generally, a pretty good route, he will test himself on Plateau Solaison
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07 May 2017 13:53

IMA wrote:
-He said his Specialized was 400 grs heavier than some of his rivals´bikes in 2016.



This is the one thing I never understood. I hear the teams complain all the time about the weight limit yet everyone's bike's are different weights and most are a good few hundred grams over the limit.
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07 May 2017 13:59

They go up Angliru in the Dauphine.
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07 May 2017 14:25

silvergrenade wrote:They go up Angliru in the Dauphine.
#BikePorn

Surely not?
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07 May 2017 15:57

They also descent Crostis. On a Fixie.
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07 May 2017 17:34

Just listened to that again, not 100% sure because my Spanish isn't great but when talking about the pros and cons of disc brakes, it sounds like he's saying that ultimately the limit of braking power is the grip between the tire and the road and disc brakes don't change that, which has been one of the main arguments in the disc brakes discussion vs the pro disc mob.
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09 May 2017 10:07

Ooooh
Exciting news!
Sounds like the professional future of the Fundacion Contador team could be confirmed in the coming weeks
Alberto's brother is currently in Italy at the Giro, presumably to talk with potential sponsors
http://www.marca.com/ciclismo/2017/05/09/59115b8d22601d1a508b45c8.html

Have to think they'd start at ProConti level
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09 May 2017 10:14

Interesting he says he has taken it easier this winter and is going all-in, as in planning to peak 100% for the TdF, also not caring that much about Dauphine etc. I would like to believe that its indeed the approach he has taken and will be good this July. First of all he obviously needs to stop crashing, but I actually believe he (along with Porte and the Movistar-duo) can do something meaningful against Froome and Sky.
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09 May 2017 10:22

LaFlorecita wrote:Ooooh
Exciting news!
Sounds like the professional future of the Fundacion Contador team could be confirmed in the coming weeks
Alberto's brother is currently in Italy at the Giro, presumably to talk with potential sponsors
http://www.marca.com/ciclismo/2017/05/09/59115b8d22601d1a508b45c8.html

Have to think they'd start at ProConti level


That is great indeed. Because they care about the youth program also. And how nice would it be to see him finishing his career with his own team, doing the Giro-Vuelta double...
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09 May 2017 10:26

deValtos wrote:
IMA wrote:
-He said his Specialized was 400 grs heavier than some of his rivals´bikes in 2016.



This is the one thing I never understood. I hear the teams complain all the time about the weight limit yet everyone's bike's are different weights and most are a good few hundred grams over the limit.


Looking at the bikes he was riding last year and the kit it was decked out in I'd be surprised if it was heavier that the UCI weight limit
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09 May 2017 10:29

StryderHells wrote:
deValtos wrote:
IMA wrote:
-He said his Specialized was 400 grs heavier than some of his rivals´bikes in 2016.



This is the one thing I never understood. I hear the teams complain all the time about the weight limit yet everyone's bike's are different weights and most are a good few hundred grams over the limit.


Looking at the bikes he was riding last year and the kit it was decked out in I'd be surprised if it was heavier that the UCI weight limit

I also think it sounds a bit weird, 400 grs is pretty noticeable at that level. In such a professional sport at this moment in time with so much attention to detail, or marginal gains if you will, and a superb bike manufacturer such as Speciliazed, I don't really know what to believe.
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09 May 2017 10:36

StryderHells wrote:
deValtos wrote:
IMA wrote:
-He said his Specialized was 400 grs heavier than some of his rivals´bikes in 2016.



This is the one thing I never understood. I hear the teams complain all the time about the weight limit yet everyone's bike's are different weights and most are a good few hundred grams over the limit.


Looking at the bikes he was riding last year and the kit it was decked out in I'd be surprised if it was heavier that the UCI weight limit

FWIW his chrome bike had a heavy paint job
He said he used the black bike (which was cursed) because it was closer to the weight limit
I think 400g is exaggerated and probably the weight of his chrome bike (which he still used quite a bit uphill because the black bike was cursed)
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09 May 2017 10:38

Also if Speshy's Tarmac really was on the UCI weight limit, I don't think they'd accept Berto going around saying the bike was too heavy

His Trek Emonda is right on the limit, I saw a pic of the weight check before the start of the Pais Vasco ITT.
6.83kg, just checked.
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09 May 2017 10:57

LaFlorecita wrote:Also if Speshy's Tarmac really was on the UCI weight limit, I don't think they'd accept Berto going around saying the bike was too heavy

His Trek Emonda is right on the limit, I saw a pic of the weight check before the start of the Pais Vasco ITT.
6.83kg, just checked.


It shouldn't be hard to get that Trek bang on the weight limit, those Emonda frames sets are stupidly light. Was he using a deeper section rim for that Pais Vasco TT?
Oh I remember that chrome coloured Specialized from last year and wish I didn't, it was an awful looking bike ;)
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09 May 2017 15:15

Weight isn't the only consideration though. A heavier, very aero optimised bike, will be faster than a 400g lighter less-aero bike in many racing situations. The most aero bikes are often around 7kg or more. I'm sure Contador knows that though; but he needs to explain away his failure from last season somehow.
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