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12 Jul 2018 10:23

I would say Froome could drop another minute today and on sunday (cumulative) and still be in good shape to win if he can regenerate his mountain legs for week 2 and 3. I'm excited for the finish today, but I wouldn't read much into it one way or the other. Even if Nibali gained 30 seconds today (which he won't) it wouldn't mean much.
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12 Jul 2018 11:55

so according to RAI(they were reading a newspaper..maybe l'Equipe) Froome's diet includes:

400gr White rice in the morning + pancakes

after the race

400gr White Rice + Haribo :razz:


I guess the rice in the late afternoon/early evening will serve as glicogen for the morning (+ the 400gr he takes in the morning)

So nice digestible carbo-dishes (obviously proportionate to an athlete of that level). Pancakes provide also proteins but not too much to clog the digestive process.
I suspect some vegetables too,nothing fancy but you need vitamins

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not quite as good as Pellizzotti's diet but still good enough :D
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12 Jul 2018 13:05

spalco wrote:I would say Froome could drop another minute today and on sunday (cumulative) and still be in good shape to win if he can regenerate his mountain legs for week 2 and 3. I'm excited for the finish today, but I wouldn't read much into it one way or the other. Even if Nibali gained 30 seconds today (which he won't) it wouldn't mean much.

Conventional logic/Contador in 2011 suggests it should go the other way. Start off well and then deteriorate as fatigue sets in.
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12 Jul 2018 14:06

46&twoWheels wrote:so according to RAI(they were reading a newspaper..maybe l'Equipe) Froome's diet includes:

400gr White rice in the morning + pancakes

after the race

400gr White Rice + Haribo :razz:


I guess the rice in the late afternoon/early evening will serve as glicogen for the morning (+ the 400gr he takes in the morning)

So nice digestible carbo-dishes (obviously proportionate to an athlete of that level). Pancakes provide also proteins but not too much to clog the digestive process.
I suspect some vegetables too,nothing fancy but you need vitamins

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not quite as good as Pellizzotti's diet but still good enough :D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/44694122
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12 Jul 2018 14:38

rick james wrote:
46&twoWheels wrote:so according to RAI(they were reading a newspaper..maybe l'Equipe) Froome's diet includes:

400gr White rice in the morning + pancakes

after the race

400gr White Rice + Haribo :razz:


I guess the rice in the late afternoon/early evening will serve as glicogen for the morning (+ the 400gr he takes in the morning)

So nice digestible carbo-dishes (obviously proportionate to an athlete of that level). Pancakes provide also proteins but not too much to clog the digestive process.
I suspect some vegetables too,nothing fancy but you need vitamins

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not quite as good as Pellizzotti's diet but still good enough :D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/44694122


ah thanks! here it is. Really interesting and thorough!
So the "Evening Rice" is explained by a different need. Not losing weight even though it's pretty variable depending on the stage.
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12 Jul 2018 16:45

Can’t tell anything about his form from that. He has been better on Murs but losing 8 seconds to Martin is about par.
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12 Jul 2018 16:55

It was the same in the giro, the short sharp efforts hurt him. He will be better on the bigger climbs....I hope
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12 Jul 2018 17:18

Much better than in the Giro, he'll win the Tour easy.
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12 Jul 2018 18:46

Ataraxus wrote:Not impressed by Froome today.
He started the climb in the best possible position and couldn't keep Bernal's wheel at the steep 500m.
Probably will lose some seconds tomorrow.


Told you so.
Losing 8 seconds to Martin might be OK (as some posters say) but losing time to Landa, Quintana, Mollema, TJ etc. is not OK at all IMO.
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12 Jul 2018 18:51

It makes no sense to expect him to be in thermonuclear form from day 1.

It's like any other Giro/Tour double. Manage the form, try to recover from the fatigue, and hope it gets better without crumbling under the fatigue of 2 GTs.
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12 Jul 2018 18:51

It makes no sense to expect him to be in thermonuclear form from day 1.

It's like any other Giro/Tour double. Manage the form, try to recover from the fatigue, and hope it gets better without crumbling under the fatigue of 2 GTs.
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12 Jul 2018 18:54

Ataraxus wrote:
Ataraxus wrote:Not impressed by Froome today.
He started the climb in the best possible position and couldn't keep Bernal's wheel at the steep 500m.
Probably will lose some seconds tomorrow.


Told you so.
Losing 8 seconds to Martin might be OK (as some posters say) but losing time to Landa, Quintana, Mollema, TJ etc. is not OK at all IMO.



I agree with this. Losing time to Martin, Valverde, Alaphilippe on a finish like this makes sense and it understandable. However he also lost time to Mijka, Quintana, Landa, Tejay, Mollema and there is where the question is because this finish is not any better for them.
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12 Jul 2018 18:56

Red Rick wrote:It makes no sense to expect him to be in thermonuclear form from day 1.

It's like any other Giro/Tour double. Manage the form, try to recover from the fatigue, and hope it gets better without crumbling under the fatigue of 2 GTs.

This time, absolutely agree, nothing to add :razz: .
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12 Jul 2018 18:59

Koronin wrote:
Ataraxus wrote:
Ataraxus wrote:Not impressed by Froome today.
He started the climb in the best possible position and couldn't keep Bernal's wheel at the steep 500m.
Probably will lose some seconds tomorrow.


Told you so.
Losing 8 seconds to Martin might be OK (as some posters say) but losing time to Landa, Quintana, Mollema, TJ etc. is not OK at all IMO.



I agree with this. Losing time to Martin, Valverde, Alaphilippe on a finish like this makes sense and it understandable. However he also lost time to Mijka, Quintana, Landa, Tejay, Mollema and there is where the question is because this finish is not any better for them.

Koronin, believe me, I'm really happy he lost just a few seconds at such finish in 1st week!
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12 Jul 2018 19:04

He gambled a little and got caught behind the split by riding conservatively and then had to try and come across the gap when he realised hence why he finished on his own inbetween the groups. At least that's my take.

Obviously though not in the form he was when he was sprinting up Mur du Huy but I expect that's not part of the plan doing the double.
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12 Jul 2018 19:15

Bot. Sky_Bot wrote:
Koronin wrote:
Ataraxus wrote:
Ataraxus wrote:Not impressed by Froome today.
He started the climb in the best possible position and couldn't keep Bernal's wheel at the steep 500m.
Probably will lose some seconds tomorrow.


Told you so.
Losing 8 seconds to Martin might be OK (as some posters say) but losing time to Landa, Quintana, Mollema, TJ etc. is not OK at all IMO.



I agree with this. Losing time to Martin, Valverde, Alaphilippe on a finish like this makes sense and it understandable. However he also lost time to Mijka, Quintana, Landa, Tejay, Mollema and there is where the question is because this finish is not any better for them.

Koronin, believe me, I'm really happy he lost just a few seconds at such finish in 1st week!



You should be happy. He could have lost a bit more time in a stage finish like this. I'm a bit surprised Landa and Quintana didn't loose a couple of seconds as well.
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12 Jul 2018 19:15

I don't think planning giro-tour double is down to such littles as not loosing 5-10 seconds on mur-de-bretagne by any means. he wasn't good as well as he wasn't dreadful, pacing himself uphill. this time the leading group was quite persistent at keep up the tempo, so froome eventually couldn't close that 20 meter gap. as in case of AC in 2011 and 2015, from now on Froome is moving in territory of complete uncertainty, where curve of form can easily point both up and down. it's going to be fun.
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12 Jul 2018 19:19

deValtos wrote:He gambled a little and got caught behind the split by riding conservatively and then had to try and come across the gap when he realised hence why he finished on his own inbetween the groups. At least that's my take.

Obviously though not in the form he was when he was sprinting up Mur du Huy but I expect that's not part of the plan doing the double.

Naah Froome is clever enough. If he had the legs he would've never lost any time IMO.
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12 Jul 2018 20:15

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