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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

16 Sep 2017 20:56

GenericBoonenFan wrote:
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Ruby United wrote:I know Contador has retired and there is not much to write on his thread, but can his blind obsequious fans please stay off this forum?

Also, I'm not blind, but after seeing the Froome picture, I kinda wish I was :eek:

You are really contradicting everything you've said so far...

Please point out in what way that post contradicted anything I posted before?
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16 Sep 2017 20:58

Pennino wrote:Fantastic photos imho. This is what the body of a top end athlete looks like, whatever your opinion about CF is (and you know mine).

People can have their opinions, but I think mrs Been has shown once again that she's not fit for being a commentator on a channel like Eurosport. "How can this be healthy", eh... it's not like he has to do a 2h ride every Sunday.

I agree.
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16 Sep 2017 21:00

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Pennino wrote:Fantastic photos imho. This is what the body of a top end athlete looks like, whatever your opinion about CF is (and you know mine).

People can have their opinions, but I think mrs Been has shown once again that she's not fit for being a commentator on a channel like Eurosport. "How can this be healthy", eh... it's not like he has to do a 2h ride every Sunday.

I agree.

You understand Dutch?
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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

16 Sep 2017 21:06

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kenk09 wrote:So body shaming is fine as long as it's anonymous. What nonsense. If you're going to complain about body shaming, DO NOT BODY SHAME. Hypocrisy hidden by anonymity is the worst.

Body shaming is bad because it makes people feel bad. Michelle went in with a personal attack with the sole aim of making the woman in question feel horrible. Doubt Froome will be bothered by some anonymous people calling his body gross and anyway, he's inviting comments by making these photos public. Guess he didn't get the reaction he wanted, but that's all part of the game.

Great, I'll quote that part whenever I see a public figure getting fat or sl*t shamed or whatever other forms of shaming there are. They're asking for it, after all. Their problem if they don't get the desired reaction.

You don't immediately make the connection "naked person - body" in your mind?
What are you saying?

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On the photo itself, it's not pretty, but it has a certain aesthetic value, like a sighthound.

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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

16 Sep 2017 21:14

kingjr wrote:
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kingjr wrote:
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kenk09 wrote:So body shaming is fine as long as it's anonymous. What nonsense. If you're going to complain about body shaming, DO NOT BODY SHAME. Hypocrisy hidden by anonymity is the worst.

Body shaming is bad because it makes people feel bad. Michelle went in with a personal attack with the sole aim of making the woman in question feel horrible. Doubt Froome will be bothered by some anonymous people calling his body gross and anyway, he's inviting comments by making these photos public. Guess he didn't get the reaction he wanted, but that's all part of the game.

Great, I'll quote that part whenever I see a public figure getting fat or sl*t shamed or whatever other forms of shaming there are. They're asking for it, after all. Their problem if they don't get the desired reaction.

You don't immediately make the connection "naked person - body" in your mind?
What are you saying?

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On the photo itself, it's not pretty, but it has a certain aesthetic value, like a sighthound.

inb4 cound-pun

You said you would quote that line to excuse bodyshaming public figures because "they're asking for it because they're public figures". If you had read my post carefully, you would have realized that was not the point I made. My point was that anyone who shares pictures of their naked self or allows those pictures to be shared with the public, is asking for a reaction to those pictures and in extension, asking for a reaction to their body because everyone makes the connection "naked picture = body" in their mind. The only reason to be photographed naked or to photograph someone naked is to show off the body. I hope you now see why your parallel with any random public figure (who does not share naked pictures) is false.

As for your second point: so we essentially agree. Not sure why my post provoked such an emotional response. Not everyone enjoys having a photo of an emaciated naked cyclist shoved into their face when they open the internet.
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16 Sep 2017 21:14

GenericBoonenFan wrote:It's social media, if you don't wanna get body shamed - bullied etc. you shouldn't be on it.
Been is always complaining about the criticism she gets...yeah...well if you can't take it then simply just quit social media.

What? So its the people that gets bullied fault for being on Social media? What a crass statement
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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

16 Sep 2017 21:18

LaFlorecita wrote:
GenericBoonenFan wrote:
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Ruby United wrote:I know Contador has retired and there is not much to write on his thread, but can his blind obsequious fans please stay off this forum?

Also, I'm not blind, but after seeing the Froome picture, I kinda wish I was :eek:

You are really contradicting everything you've said so far...

Please point out in what way that post contradicted anything I posted before?

Ok, you didn't say it you implied it, but ok here I go.
You said that what MC did was wrong, well it was but it wasn't uncalled for. She was simply defending her husband from a person who's known to be a social media addicted full-of-herself narcissistic person. You condemned MC for body-shaming Been. Although I like to see Been get a boomerang to her face, I understand you. However, right now you called CF gross, I'll take it you were referring to his body, I don't think your familiar with his body odour. And that what you jjust did can be called (Read carefully so you understamd) body shaming, although it's far less severe of what MC did, you just took part in something you cleary condemned.
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16 Sep 2017 21:19

Who the hell is Been and what have they said? I'm a bit lost now
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16 Sep 2017 21:20

GenericBoonenFan wrote:It's social media, if you don't wanna get body shamed - bullied etc. you shouldn't be on it.
Been is always complaining about the criticism she gets...yeah...well if you can't take it then simply just quit social media.


Bullying is bullying, never justified, no matter real life or social media. Stupid comment.

Michelle Cound has a history of being crass and a bully.
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16 Sep 2017 21:22

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GenericBoonenFan wrote:It's social media, if you don't wanna get body shamed - bullied etc. you shouldn't be on it.
Been is always complaining about the criticism she gets...yeah...well if you can't take it then simply just quit social media.


Bullying is bullying, never justified, no matter real life or social media. Stupid comment.

Michelle Cound has a history of being crass and a bully.

offt the cheek :lol:
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16 Sep 2017 21:24

rick james wrote:Who the hell is Been and what have they said? I'm a bit lost now

José Been is a Dutch cycling reporter and commentator for Eurosport who shared the photo of Froome on social media and added that she believed he looks unhealthy. So Froome's wife Michelle replied to her saying "his BF% is 10% which is healthy and far more healthy than your 40%". Later José Been replied that she got that incorrect as her BF% is 33%, to which Michelle replied with a table that showed the different levels of body fat adding the hashtag #obese.
FYI José Been is overweight which according to her is because her cancer treatment made it impossible to lose weight for many years, she is now slowly losing weight.
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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

16 Sep 2017 21:40

GenericBoonenFan wrote:Ok, you didn't say it you implied it, but ok here I go.
You said that what MC did was wrong, well it was but it wasn't uncalled for. She was simply defending her husband from a person who's known to be a social media addicted full-of-herself narcissistic person. You condemned MC for body-shaming Been. Although I like to see Been get a boomerang to her face, I understand you. However, right now you called CF gross, I'll take it you were referring to his body, I don't think your familiar with his body odour. And that what you jjust did can be called (Read carefully so you understamd) body shaming, although it's far less severe of what MC did, you just took part in something you cleary condemned.

Yes so my reaction was slightly exaggerated, I could also have posted "off to wash my eyes with bleach now", would you have thought I was actually going to do that? Don't take everything so literally. That photo is not literally gross but to me, it definitely isn't pleasant or attractive to look at. Because the sole purpose of these photos is to make people look at and form an opinion on his body, I think I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and allowed to share it.
I really hope you can see the difference between an exaggerated emotional response to something that is meant to provoke a response and being nasty just to hurt another's feelings.
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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

16 Sep 2017 22:09

LaFlorecita wrote:
GenericBoonenFan wrote:Ok, you didn't say it you implied it, but ok here I go.
You said that what MC did was wrong, well it was but it wasn't uncalled for. She was simply defending her husband from a person who's known to be a social media addicted full-of-herself narcissistic person. You condemned MC for body-shaming Been. Although I like to see Been get a boomerang to her face, I understand you. However, right now you called CF gross, I'll take it you were referring to his body, I don't think your familiar with his body odour. And that what you jjust did can be called (Read carefully so you understamd) body shaming, although it's far less severe of what MC did, you just took part in something you cleary condemned.

Yes so my reaction was slightly exaggerated, I could also have posted "off to wash my eyes with bleach now", would you have thought I was actually going to do that? Don't take everything so literally. That photo is not literally gross but to me, it definitely isn't pleasant or attractive to look at. Because the sole purpose of these photos is to make people look at and form an opinion on his body, I think I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and allowed to share it.
I really hope you can see the difference between an exaggerated emotional response to something that is meant to provoke a response and being nasty just to hurt another's feelings.

I did not take it literally, I just thought and still think that you're hypocrit
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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

16 Sep 2017 22:14

GenericBoonenFan wrote:I did not take it literally, I just thought and still think that you're hypocrit

Fortunately, I can't be too bothered by a stranger's opinion on the internet.
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16 Sep 2017 23:20

How TF is that about 10%? Looks more like 6-7%. But we obviously can't see how much visceral fat is stored, we can only see the subcutaneous.
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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

17 Sep 2017 00:24

LaFlorecita wrote:
kingjr wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
kingjr wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:Body shaming is bad because it makes people feel bad. Michelle went in with a personal attack with the sole aim of making the woman in question feel horrible. Doubt Froome will be bothered by some anonymous people calling his body gross and anyway, he's inviting comments by making these photos public. Guess he didn't get the reaction he wanted, but that's all part of the game.

Great, I'll quote that part whenever I see a public figure getting fat or sl*t shamed or whatever other forms of shaming there are. They're asking for it, after all. Their problem if they don't get the desired reaction.

You don't immediately make the connection "naked person - body" in your mind?
What are you saying?

_______________________________________________________________________________________

On the photo itself, it's not pretty, but it has a certain aesthetic value, like a sighthound.

inb4 cound-pun

You said you would quote that line to excuse bodyshaming public figures because "they're asking for it because they're public figures". If you had read my post carefully, you would have realized that was not the point I made. My point was that anyone who shares pictures of their naked self or allows those pictures to be shared with the public, is asking for a reaction to those pictures and in extension, asking for a reaction to their body because everyone makes the connection "naked picture = body" in their mind. The only reason to be photographed naked or to photograph someone naked is to show off the body. I hope you now see why your parallel with any random public figure (who does not share naked pictures) is false.

As for your second point: so we essentially agree. Not sure why my post provoked such an emotional response. Not everyone enjoys having a photo of an emaciated naked cyclist shoved into their face when they open the internet.

Anyone who puts their body on display in a manner that draws attention to it is asking for a reaction, you don't have to be naked for that.

We don't agree. The picture doesn't bother me in the slightest, I don't find it gross. I'm not being emotional either.
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Re: Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

17 Sep 2017 00:40

LaFlorecita wrote:
Ruby United wrote:I know Contador has retired and there is not much to write on his thread, but can his blind obsequious fans please stay off this forum?

Also, I'm not blind, but after seeing the Froome picture, I kinda wish I was :eek:


On all the threads in this forum I am constantly inundated with Froome hate. And, as I have written numerous times before, I understand why.
But please keep it away from the Froome thread.
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17 Sep 2017 04:30

froome lovers have once again searched for a millesimal occasion for disliking him, never bothering themselves to find one for expressing respect. what a suprise that is.
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Re: Re:

17 Sep 2017 06:35

LaFlorecita wrote:
rick james wrote:Who the hell is Been and what have they said? I'm a bit lost now

José Been is a Dutch cycling reporter and commentator for Eurosport who shared the photo of Froome on social media and added that she believed he looks unhealthy. So Froome's wife Michelle replied to her saying "his BF% is 10% which is healthy and far more healthy than your 40%". Later José Been replied that she got that incorrect as her BF% is 33%, to which Michelle replied with a table that showed the different levels of body fat adding the hashtag #obese.
FYI José Been is overweight which according to her is because her cancer treatment made it impossible to lose weight for many years, she is now slowly losing weight.

seems Michelle took down a troll
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17 Sep 2017 08:16

Contador fan here but not sure why the hate here. No offense to my fellow AC fans, but how is that gross? I personall am a big fan of the ESPN body issue, which shows nude athletes from various sports because it shows the incredible body propelling the top 1% of the top 1% of athletes. I don't think the human body is gross; I think it's amazing and beautiful. Not saying I think that photo of CF is beautiful, but I don't see the issue. I think there would be a different reaction if Peter Sagan had done this (I won't say Contador because I just can't see it happening). I also think it's hypocritical to insult someone's body and complain about someone else insulting someone's body, regardless of the audience. Just my 2c.
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