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In which year will Porte win the GT Treble?

2014
201
16%
2015
196
15%
2016
193
15%
2017
192
15%
All of the above
251
20%
He will only manage the double
245
19%
 
Total votes : 1278

23 Sep 2018 10:12

My post from the 27th August rings true - A national team never should never build a team around Porte.
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23 Sep 2018 14:53

Red Rick wrote:Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.


Sad but true unless he pulls a rabbit out of a hat next year instead of the usual snake. Some people keep referring back to Evans winning the Tour at 34 but Evans was operating on another level and was a completely different type of rider. How many people can honestly say, that they thought Geraint Thomas would win a Tour ? Not me. Sport is full of surprises but I'm not sure Porte will be one of them.
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23 Sep 2018 15:09

movingtarget wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.


Sad but true unless he pulls a rabbit out of a hat next year instead of the usual snake. Some people keep referring back to Evans winning the Tour at 34 but Evans was operating on another level and was a completely different type of rider. How many people can honestly say they thought Geraint Thomas would win a Tour ? Not me. Sport is full of surprises but I'm not sure Porte will be one of them.


Evans was a gutsy rider too. Plus, in 2011, he didn’t have to deal with a pre-ban Bertie flying on all cylinders that year- not belittling his victory, as there were many instances where Evans could/should have won another TdF.
Before 2011, Evans had 3-4 GT podiums, so really the most shocking thing about him winning was that he beat Bertie and Schleck to win.

Porte, OTOH, has 0 GT podiums and will be 34 years old. He also won’t be facing a weakened opposition like Evans in 2011. On top of that, there was no Sky Train to deal with in those days.
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23 Sep 2018 15:25

Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.
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23 Sep 2018 17:30

Red Rick wrote:Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.


I am not sure about that

The thing is Porte could match Thomas on climbing ability but that is it
Thomas can take pressure of leadership, can command loyalty and confidence of a team, keeps his head up when down,etc...Wining isn't always about the legs. Porte has been (is?) a top climber but not a top GC leader

I cant see him winning the Tour at Trek...for one thing he doesn't have the team to match SKY and he doesn't have the youth to match Dumoulin or Roglic
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23 Sep 2018 18:30

Red Rick wrote:Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.
Red Rick wrote:Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.



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23 Sep 2018 18:41

rick james wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.
Red Rick wrote:Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.



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Hahahaha :D :D :lol: :lol:
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24 Sep 2018 00:36

HelloDolly wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.


I am not sure about that

The thing is Porte could match Thomas on climbing ability but that is it
Thomas can take pressure of leadership, can command loyalty and confidence of a team, keeps his head up when down,etc...Wining isn't always about the legs. Porte has been (is?) a top climber but not a top GC leader

I cant see him winning the Tour at Trek...for one thing he doesn't have the team to match SKY and he doesn't have the youth to match Dumoulin or Roglic


Thomas actually looked comfortable winning the Tour. No falls and riding for the best team in the world helps. It was almost the perfect race from a GT contender. Bernal as the last man standing was obviously a bonus on some of the MTFs. Talent wise I think Thomas and Porte are pretty close but that's not the full picture of course.
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24 Sep 2018 11:52

rick james wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.
Red Rick wrote:Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.



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Now that made me laugh!
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24 Sep 2018 12:07

rick james wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.
Red Rick wrote:Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.



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haha!!! Very good!
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25 Sep 2018 10:03

Somehow Richie Porte is captain of BMC for the Hammer Series in Hong Kong on October 14 - This is not a joke.
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25 Sep 2018 17:45

yaco wrote:Somehow Richie Porte is captain of BMC for the Hammer Series in Hong Kong on October 14 - This is not a joke.

Hammer Series has team leaders? Who knew? I can't find anything in the description of the Leader role Hammer Sprint or Hammer Pursuit Are they designated to be the 4th man over the line or the first? Does any of this really matter?

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26 Sep 2018 04:15

myrideissteelerthanyours wrote:
yaco wrote:Somehow Richie Porte is captain of BMC for the Hammer Series in Hong Kong on October 14 - This is not a joke.

Hammer Series has team leaders? Who knew? I can't find anything in the description of the Leader role Hammer Sprint or Hammer Pursuit Are they designated to be the 4th man over the line or the first? Does any of this really matter?

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It's a worry that you can't see the relevance of the post - One is that Porte should not be captain of anything after his recent performances and that Porte who doesn't want to race will still racing in Mid October.
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26 Sep 2018 09:19

yaco wrote:Somehow Richie Porte is captain of BMC for the Hammer Series in Hong Kong on October 14 - This is not a joke.

He's on his way to become the new Betancur
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26 Sep 2018 11:27

ice&fire wrote:
yaco wrote:Somehow Richie Porte is captain of BMC for the Hammer Series in Hong Kong on October 14 - This is not a joke.

He's on his way to become the new Betancur


Except Porte races a bit more often.
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26 Sep 2018 15:17

ice&fire wrote:
yaco wrote:Somehow Richie Porte is captain of BMC for the Hammer Series in Hong Kong on October 14 - This is not a joke.

He's on his way to become the new Betancur


C'mon it's nowhere near that bad.
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Re: Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

26 Sep 2018 15:53

The Tasmanian is one of the strongest stage racers in the pro peloton, with wins at Paris-Nice, Volta a Catalunya, Tour de Romandie, Tour de Suisse, Tour Down Under and Volta ao Algarve on his considerable CV. After crashing out of this season’s Tour de France in July, Porte returned to competition at the Vuelta a España and will hope to end his time with BMC Racing Team on a high note in Hong Kong.


This sounds funny. :D Actually they will have a good line-up. -> https://www.hammerseries.com/en/hong-kong/news/hammer-hong-kong-team-captains-revealed

But the courses will be pan flat, which is a disgrace for this location.
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26 Sep 2018 17:08

Max Rockatansky wrote:
The Tasmanian is one of the strongest stage racers in the pro peloton, with wins at Paris-Nice, Volta a Catalunya, Tour de Romandie, Tour de Suisse, Tour Down Under and Volta ao Algarve on his considerable CV. After crashing out of this season’s Tour de France in July, Porte returned to competition at the Vuelta a España and will hope to end his time with BMC Racing Team on a high note in Hong Kong.


This sounds funny. :D Actually they will have a good line-up. -> https://www.hammerseries.com/en/hong-kong/news/hammer-hong-kong-team-captains-revealed

But the courses will be pan flat, which is a disgrace for this location.


I doubt it will be pan flat though I am trying to work out the logistics of how you race it in one day - I look forward to attending.
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28 Sep 2018 20:14

You guys are so harsh on Porte. He is a very unlucky rider. Amazing how unlucky, really.
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28 Sep 2018 21:39

myrideissteelerthanyours wrote:
yaco wrote:Somehow Richie Porte is captain of BMC for the Hammer Series in Hong Kong on October 14 - This is not a joke.

Hammer Series has team leaders? Who knew? I can't find anything in the description of the Leader role Hammer Sprint or Hammer Pursuit Are they designated to be the 4th man over the line or the first? Does any of this really matter?


Dear Teams,
Please let us have the name of one fairly well known rider who you are fairly sure will be in the Hong Kong event for our promotional purposes.
With thanks,
Hammer

(although this probably ought to continue in a Hammer thread)
Max Rockatansky wrote:But the courses will be pan flat, which is a disgrace for this location.

I thought the entire concept was predicated on a hilly circuit for Day 2.
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