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Re: Michal Kwiatkowski Thread

20 Mar 2017 14:12

damian13ster wrote:Smartest rider in the sport! And now gets his first (hopefully of many) monument win. Amazing!


This! Been saying that for a long time. He is so smart but too often his legs did not hold what his head was capable of. So far it seems he's in incredible shape. But a few years ago he faded in April after strong outings in February and March. Lets hope he can keep it up this time around.
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16 Apr 2017 18:00

I stand corrected, really strong ride today (except going too early in the sprint that is).
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16 Apr 2017 18:01

Really disappointed by his finish today. He's usually much smarter than that. What was he thinking starting his sprint that early? That said, it was one hell of a ride today. He has really bounced back strong this year.
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16 Apr 2017 18:10

I think this was one of the first times Kwiat has made a large tactical error. Actually there was another one on the way to Planche des Belles Filles in 2014 where he attacked with quite a few km to go with Martin with him and then was completely cooked and lost a lot of time. But other than that not much.
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16 Apr 2017 18:25

He just wanted to surprise Gilbert, not necessarily a "large tactical error" imo. It's not like he was guaranteed to win if he waited a bit longer. Gilbert is also pretty damn fast at the end of a long race like this.
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16 Apr 2017 18:27

It was the exact same thing that he did in E3 last year by going from 300 metres out. The difference was that last year, Sagan gave up and Gilbert didn't do that today. Of course that was because of a headwind, which makes such a maneouvre quite silly (but he did get a big gap and was probably close to coming out of Gilbert's drag zone).
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Re: Michal Kwiatkowski Thread

16 Apr 2017 23:50

****, so close.
Gilbert was just a bit stronger in the end. Tactics were pretty bad (in the sprint, absolutely loved the aggressiveness in the race), although I though gap was enough to justify the move and that Michal will be able to hold on. Seems like he slightly overestimated his strength. Anyway, extremely happy with his performance.
Showed really good strength, and LBL is the target, not AGR.
Also enjoyed post-race interview. Clearly dissapointed despite great showing, and pissed off at the mistake. Will only make him stronger next week.
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17 Apr 2017 01:35

tobydawq wrote:It was the exact same thing that he did in E3 last year by going from 300 metres out. The difference was that last year, Sagan gave up and Gilbert didn't do that today. Of course that was because of a headwind, which makes such a maneouvre quite silly (but he did get a big gap and was probably close to coming out of Gilbert's drag zone).


Yep, exact same tactic. He totally caught Sagan out. Seems like Phil was willing to dig deeper though.
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18 Apr 2017 14:29

I've heard a rumour that Bahrain Merida is determined to sign Kwiatkowski for the next season. Interesting.
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Re: Michal Kwiatkowski Thread

23 Apr 2017 19:12

His positioning was absolutely terrible in the final today. I don't understand what he was doing. He was right behind Moscon just before Saint-Nicolas and then just disappeared to the back of the group. Then he does the same thing before the final drag to the line. He was incredibly strong in the final 500 meters and the only one capable of challenging Valverde.

I guess he already has two big classic wins this year, including his first monument, but it feels like a wasted opportunity not to have at least added one Ardennes classic to his palmares in the past week.
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23 Apr 2017 19:13

Kwiatkovski's tactics were fine - Valverde was in another class.
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23 Apr 2017 19:20

Once it came down to the final K, 3rd was the best he could hope for.
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23 Apr 2017 19:24

jaylew wrote:Once it came down to the final K, 3rd was the best he could hope for.


He started his effort right from the back of the group, basically at least 30 meters behind Valverde. He wasn't even giving himself a chance to compete for the win.
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23 Apr 2017 19:37

JRanton wrote:
jaylew wrote:Once it came down to the final K, 3rd was the best he could hope for.


He started his effort right from the back of the group, basically at least 30 meters behind Valverde. He wasn't even giving himself a chance to compete for the win.


Which shows probably that he was on the limit on St.Nicholas and tried to conserve energy for one last punch, which he did. If he had the strength he would be up front in Ans, right on Valverde's wheel
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Re: Michal Kwiatkowski Thread

23 Apr 2017 20:59

JRanton wrote:His positioning was absolutely terrible in the final today. I don't understand what he was doing.


He wasn't doing it on purpose. He fell back because tempo was very hard (as he himself admitted). I know some people here think it was raced too easy but in my opinion it was totally opposite. That's why there was no meaningful attacks before the last climb. Two last climbs were just the game of attrition. He had to decide: move forward earlier, burn some matches and probably blow up on the last climb way before the finish line or leave the matches for the last 500m. I think he made the right choice.
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