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26 Mar 2017 19:29

perhaps there should be a new game of highest DNFs How many so far?
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26 Mar 2017 20:34

IndianCyclist wrote:perhaps there should be a new game of highest DNFs How many so far?
Perhaps people should stop being fixated with his DNFs. Is it a good sign? No, but once again, more than 80 riders didn't finish today. And can we expect something else from Betancur? Everybody knows he's not in top shape, but today was only his sixth raceday this year. Even in his best years, he needed at least ten racedays to get some 'decent' results (please have a look at PCS or another site). If you consider this, then it's no gift to start your season with Strade Bianche, Sanremo and three races in Flanders.

I'm not expecting miracles - yes, he has motivation problems, and yes, he has weight issues, I'm not neglecting that - but I think it's better to draw conclusions after some more races, for instance like after Circuit de Sarthe.
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26 Mar 2017 23:55

He's clearly lost too much weight. He was finishing races earlier this season before he overtrained and got too lean. Movistar should rest him to avoid illness or injury.
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27 Mar 2017 03:31

He crashed then got back to the peloton, then after the echelons in a little uphill, at 81 to go he lost the wheel. Betancur is not in top shape but hanging at the end of the bunch doesn't help either.
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27 Mar 2017 07:17

Let's be fair, with his history simply starting a race is an impressive feat. He's actually in Europe, he hasn't disappeared off to Colombia somewhere.
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27 Mar 2017 07:54

He's always been in Europe during the spring.
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31 Mar 2017 20:57

This is Dani Sanchez: "Yes friends, Carlos Betancur will race Flanders. Another DNF is expected.."

Si amigos Carlos Betancur estara en el Tour de Flandes. Se espera otro DNF

https://twitter.com/ruedalenticular/status/847906346439778304


Dani Sanchez is Movistar's digital editor, sometimes acting as press officer
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01 Apr 2017 00:24

I am not sure but that didn't sound good coming from him. Anyway, I am not surprised!
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01 Apr 2017 09:29

luckyboy wrote:This is Dani Sanchez: "Yes friends, Carlos Betancur will race Flanders. Another DNF is expected.."

Si amigos Carlos Betancur estara en el Tour de Flandes. Se espera otro DNF

https://twitter.com/ruedalenticular/status/847906346439778304


Dani Sanchez is Movistar's digital editor, sometimes acting as press officer
I don't know who Dani Sanchez is, but can you explain me where you see it is Dani Sanchez who's posting this? As far as I see, it's 'Rueda lenticular', a cycling website, that posted this tweet. Is that Dani Sanchez the man behind that website?

Anyway, his next races should be RVV, Sarthe, Klasika Primavera. After this block of racing we should know more.
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01 Apr 2017 09:44

Dani was a cycling fan who got hired to be press officer with the Andorra-Grandvalira team and did such a great job he was hired by Movistar as part of the PR staff. He's been there ever since.

I don't know anything about him writing for that site though. And I don't see why he'd say anything negative about a rider on the team he works for.

I think I've seen him post around here before so he might weigh in if he sees this.
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01 Apr 2017 13:41

sound like an April Fool's to me ....
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01 Apr 2017 14:12

loge1884 wrote:sound like an April Fool's to me ....

Published on March 31st by an account from Spain, where April Fool's is mostly not a thing.
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01 Apr 2017 14:34

Someone who used to work at Movistar told me that it's him
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01 Apr 2017 14:36

Popchu wrote:
luckyboy wrote:This is Dani Sanchez: "Yes friends, Carlos Betancur will race Flanders. Another DNF is expected.."

Si amigos Carlos Betancur estara en el Tour de Flandes. Se espera otro DNF

https://twitter.com/ruedalenticular/status/847906346439778304


Dani Sanchez is Movistar's digital editor, sometimes acting as press officer
I don't know who Dani Sanchez is, but can you explain me where you see it is Dani Sanchez who's posting this? As far as I see, it's 'Rueda lenticular', a cycling website, that posted this tweet. Is that Dani Sanchez the man behind that website?

Anyway, his next races should be RVV, Sarthe, Klasika Primavera. After this block of racing we should know more.


He should be able to do well in Primavera after racing that schedule..

He did relatively well in Sarthe last year on the last couple of stages so thats a good marker as well.
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01 Apr 2017 15:18

Wonder if Sanchez only means it to say they aren't expecting results, but just for him to get some more race miles and hang in as long as possible. Hard to see DS going public with snark unless Movistar really are super sick of Betancur.
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01 Apr 2017 16:09

Of course Betancur does himself no favors with his preparation, but at the same time, it's like MovieStar punish Betancur by making him race in unsuitable parcours.
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01 Apr 2017 16:22

loge1884 wrote:sound like an April Fool's to me ....


The spanish have their own april fools in december, they wouldn't put out an article today.
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01 Apr 2017 16:42

GuyIncognito wrote:Dani was a cycling fan who got hired to be press officer with the Andorra-Grandvalira team and did such a great job he was hired by Movistar as part of the PR staff. He's been there ever since.

I don't know anything about him writing for that site though. And I don't see why he'd say anything negative about a rider on the team he works for.

I think I've seen him post around here before so he might weigh in if he sees this.
Dani Sanchez was also a pretty active poster in the first years of PCMDaily with the username Dankan( around 1000 posts till 2009, then he didn't post in PCMDaily after and the website of him there links him to linkedin where he is shown to be working on Movistar since 2011)
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01 Apr 2017 17:29

yaco wrote:Of course Betancur does himself no favors with his preparation, but at the same time, it's like MovieStar punish Betancur by making him race in unsuitable parcours.

Maybe they should let him choose his racing program. And pick 5-6 domestiques to do the same races and work for him nonstop. And get him a sprint train.
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01 Apr 2017 18:45

hrotha wrote:
yaco wrote:Of course Betancur does himself no favors with his preparation, but at the same time, it's like MovieStar punish Betancur by making him race in unsuitable parcours.

Maybe they should let him choose his racing program. And pick 5-6 domestiques to do the same races and work for him nonstop. And get him a sprint train.


I'm imagining 5-6 guys constantly relaying back and forth from the team car bringing him bottles of molten Häagen-Dazs
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