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01 May 2019 03:33

Hopefully if this form carries through and he goes to the Giro it's good enough for him to be of some help to Landa.
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01 May 2019 05:41

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We saw it last year in the Giro. He's on his way to an almost anonymous top-20 without being of any significant help to his team leader.

He didn't finish 15e at Liege last year though. We'll see today, but he looks good for now.
Last year, however, the weather conditions were much better. We all know Betancur copes very well with cold and bad weather, so maybe it gives a little bit a distorted picture. Nonetheless, you are not 15th at Liege only because of the weather, so yes, his form is there.

In general, he looks better than the previous years. The way he rides through the peloton (I refer to Omloop), his interviews, his win in Klasika Amorebieta, ...

Regarding his program, I see he is on the provisional startlist for the Giro. With Valverde unsure, he will probably start. I'm not too happy about this. In the interview after Amorebieta, he clearly stated: Romandie - altitude - Dauphiné - build up to Vuelta as his program. Was this his own wish, or did the Movistar staff change their minds? If the latter, this is very short term thinking.
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01 May 2019 13:29

Popchu don't sweat it. We have seen how training camps or training blocks work for Betancur. As I said before, he would be better off going to the Giro in order to be good at the Vuelta.
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01 May 2019 20:08

He has done lots of training blocks this year. I don't know if he gets burn out from spending too much time at races or even in Europe for that matter.

I would send him to Romandie - Dauphine, but you never know.
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04 May 2019 01:05

After watching him today, I think he has a good chance of winning the Tour of Romandie. What a turnaround. He is the poster rider of contract year LOL
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04 May 2019 01:09

gospina wrote:After watching him today, I think he has a good chance of winning the Tour of Romandie. What a turnaround. He is the poster rider of contract year LOL



I also think this is one of those, never give him more than a one year contract at a time.
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04 May 2019 07:18

My Spanish is very, very limited but I understand Marca is also torn between the decision whether to send him to the Giro, and take advantage of his current form, or don't overload his program and target other races this year, with a chance of disappearing again and throw away all the work done over the last few months.

But, he's not going to the Giro according to this article?

https://www.marca.com/ciclismo/giro-italia/2019/05/03/5ccacc2ce5fdea607b8b45a4.html
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04 May 2019 09:52

They do conclude that the logic dictates he should do the Giro.
Con estos números y las buenas prestaciones que ya ha alcanzado, lo lógico sería que estuviera en la nómina del Giro, lo que le colocaría a 51 días de competición a 2 de junio, en caso de que finalizara la ronda rosa.
But, in general, the writer expressed his concerns how he does great after a block of race days, and then throws away 15k quality Kms by disappearing.
Notice, though, that in the same outlet, Lastras named Amador as Valverde's replacement.
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04 May 2019 10:26

I think you skip the Giro, keep him on a short leash and bring him to TdF. Theres a looong way to the Vuelta
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04 May 2019 20:21

How do you keep a professional on a short leash? forcing him?
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04 May 2019 22:30

Escarabajo wrote:How do you keep a professional on a short leash? forcing him?

Dno. Try to let him train with someone, race a few races here and there and not let him completely out of sight. Its ridiculous, if you didn't know better you'd think I talked about a little baby, but its the reality when it comes to this guy.
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15 Jun 2019 12:49

Curious to see in what shape he arrives in Suisse. Should be good!
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17 Jun 2019 02:55

15e today. Seems to be a theme for the year so far.
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17 Jun 2019 17:23

Form looks decent.
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17 Jun 2019 18:02

Escarabajo wrote:Form looks decent.
He was looking good on the climb yesterday, being part of the first group when the split occurred.

Looking forward to more mountains. :)
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17 Jun 2019 18:37

well, he said finishing high up in GC here is his main goal (before the Vuelta) months ago, so him not making any splits like that would be a huge disappointment. Given the poor competition, a Top 5 should be the target, I think.
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23 Jun 2019 14:22

For the first time since his GC victory in Paris-Nice, which is more than five years ago, Betancur finishes in the GC top ten of a WorldTour race.

It was a very nice sight to see him climbing in the high mountains with the best, although he is missing something to fight for the win at this level. Maybe I was expecting a bit more after a good build-up with enough racing kilometers and a training camp in Andorra, but let's focus on the positive: his level was very decent.

And now, up to the Vuelta. If he's willing to live like a pro for two months, nice thing are awaiting for him in Spain. But another option is that he throws away his good form and arrives with +5 kilogram in August, or worse, he disappears again and does not race for the rest for the season. But let's hope for the best!
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23 Jun 2019 16:23

Nice to see Betancur in good shape. That said, he has the annoying habit of never pulling when he is in a small group. Pozzovivo had a good reason not to pull today with Dennis up the road, but Betancur had no reason. He is not making himself any friends in the peloton.
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23 Jun 2019 20:57

He is definitely in good shape. That was a hard mountain stage. Very rice and consistent riding.
Now prepare for La Vuelta.
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