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Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

12 Apr 2014 16:11

Both turned pro with the Aussies this year and have made very solid starts after glittering U23 careers.


Adam -

11th GC Tour de San Luis ('14)
22nd GC Volta Ciclista a Catalunya ('14)
7th stage Volta Ciclista a Catalunya ('14)
1st stage Tour of Turkey
1st Tour of Turkey

4th stage Tour of California x2
5th Tour of California
3rd stage Dauphine x2
6th Dauphine
1st GP Industria & Artigianato
5th Giro Della Toscana
9th Tirreno Adriatico


http://www.strava.com/athletes/278282

Simon -

12th GC Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco ('14)
7th GC Tour de Slovenie (& Young Rider Jersey)
3rd British National Championship
3rd Stage, Pais Vasco
5th Pais Vasco

http://www.strava.com/athletes/278282
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12 Apr 2014 17:22

Scary potential from both of them. I like Tour de L'Aviner as a marker.

If I remember, Sky courted them but they decided to go to Orica. Which in itself is pretty impressive for a couple of young English guys.
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12 Apr 2014 17:43

If I recall correctly their reason for choosing OGE was the knowledge that they wouldn't really be able to ride their own chances at SKY.
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12 Apr 2014 18:17

Yeah they had the offer from Sky but it was much better they went to OGE, their chances of freedom at Sky would have been limited but they've started well. They have been involved with many of the British staff and I expect them to sign for Sky in the future.
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12 Apr 2014 19:30

I guess Porte - Yates swap possible in future possibly.

Both impressing, not many riders moving from U23 to Pro ranks perform at all in first year in terms of results.

Adam is almost best OGE climber already while Simon best puncheur :o :D :cool:
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12 Apr 2014 19:37

Good to see a thread on the brothers.

Gotta see a one-two attack somewhere in the near future.

Next race for the lads?
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12 Apr 2014 19:47

I guess ATOC? Seems OGE's Romandie and Ardennes squad are already penciled. And yoo young for giro debut.
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12 Apr 2014 19:54

Surprised they're not off to the Ardennes; that's got to be the end goal for Simon surely.
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13 Apr 2014 00:14

Gotta say, I for one am very glad they chose Orica instead of Sky. And not because I'm not Sky's biggest fan or anything like that. Instead of going to a team based on nationalism they chose their team by the opportunities they would get on it.

They are focused on getting the chance to ride as leaders and win races. That's a good quality for them to have.

Both have a bright future ahead of them.
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29 Apr 2014 17:32

Shame for Simon today, but nice to see Adam going so well today.

Hopefully neither of them end up at a GT this year, but both have shown they can be competitive at the top level in their first 4 months as pros which is very impressive.
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29 Apr 2014 18:16

Wow a climber riding for Orica!...
Seriously though I like the Adam almost won a MTF so I can label him as a climber. And Simon was 12th in Basque Country so he's obviously a puncheur. And now I won't confuse them anymore :D
Now I wonder how they would do if they were riding for Sky... In my view, they should stay put as long as they can't be the top GC rider for Sky. Even if they can, Orica seems to have a quite laid back attitude that I personally find quite interesting: go for results, have fun, chill out. Seems to be taking the best out of most of their riders (except Goss) so it definitely works.
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29 Apr 2014 18:26

Obviously this is along way off and they may never reach this level but are they Britain's next best chance at winning a worlds?
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29 Apr 2014 18:33

Pricey_sky wrote:Obviously this is along way off and they may never reach this level but are they Britain's next best chance at winning a worlds?


Well, Brad has a chance in the TT, and that middle eastern course looks nice for Cav, but after them Simon looks a very good shout.
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30 Apr 2014 02:39

Joy and disappointment for them today. Sad to see Simon out of racing for a while. :( Hope he can make a quick comeback.

Great result for Adam though. Oh Why oh why did I not take both for my CQ team. Had both for the longest time. Would have probably been better off taking Adam then Cobo.
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30 Apr 2014 03:15

Gloin22 wrote:I guess Porte - Yates swap possible in future possibly.

Both impressing, not many riders moving from U23 to Pro ranks perform at all in first year in terms of results.

Adam is almost best OGE climber already while Simon best puncheur :o :D :cool:


lol, that's some optimism there.
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30 Apr 2014 07:36

RedheadDane wrote:If I recall correctly their reason for choosing OGE was the knowledge that they wouldn't really be able to ride their own chances at SKY.


Which is ironic because they way sky have gone this year they would have had those chances
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01 May 2014 20:25

Who else think Adam Yates has alot of poetnetial to win the GT's. I no we never no stuff like recovery he maybe a Lulu Sanchez type which is no shame but i believe in the guy. I cant wait to see if he win the TDF we no the anti British on this site. God help help us if that small country who has suc ked at Cycling starts dominating. Haha it's our time.Unlucky Holland and Belgium and France and Italy for that matter you established countries cant do much in the "big races vs us.

Who do the Azzuri have to challenge oh yeh a guy who has to attack on any downhill as he cant hold a candle to Froome, Holland meh Mollema haha. Blegium(their still liveing off the best cyclist name ever). Just face facts GB, Colombia and Spain are the best GT riders.
Froome is the man get prepared for this in the next few years he is the best GT rider for long time.
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01 May 2014 23:57

TANK91 wrote:Who else think Adam Yates has alot of poetnetial to win the GT's. I no we never no stuff like recovery he maybe a Lulu Sanchez type which is no shame but i believe in the guy. I cant wait to see if he win the TDF we no the anti British on this site. God help help us if that small country who has suc ked at Cycling starts dominating. Haha it's our time.Unlucky Holland and Belgium and France and Italy for that matter you established countries cant do much in the "big races vs us.

Who do the Azzuri have to challenge oh yeh a guy who has to attack on any downhill as he cant hold a candle to Froome, Holland meh Mollema haha. Blegium(their still liveing off the best cyclist name ever). Just face facts GB, Colombia and Spain are the best GT riders.


Now I know why there is the occasional anti-British comment. Trolls like you!
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02 May 2014 00:23

CycloAndy wrote:Now I know why there is the occasional anti-British comment. Trolls like you!


Adam Yates has shown 10x more climbing talent at his age than the last 2 TDF winners.

Or if you want to say they were late starters, he has shown 10x more gt talent at this stage of his cycling career than the last 2 TDF winners, as well as the last Vuelta winner and the 2nd to last Giro winner.
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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02 May 2014 00:51

TANK91 wrote:Who else think Adam Yates has alot of poetnetial to win the GT's. I no we never no stuff like recovery he maybe a Lulu Sanchez type which is no shame but i believe in the guy. I cant wait to see if he win the TDF we no the anti British on this site. God help help us if that small country who has suc ked at Cycling starts dominating. Haha it's our time.Unlucky Holland and Belgium and France and Italy for that matter you established countries cant do much in the "big races vs us.

Who do the Azzuri have to challenge oh yeh a guy who has to attack on any downhill as he cant hold a candle to Froome, Holland meh Mollema haha. Blegium(their still liveing off the best cyclist name ever). Just face facts GB, Colombia and Spain are the best GT riders.


Far to early to tell for sure IMO.

And why, when you ask a question in a post do you then follow that up by making some kind of grand generalization of the entire forum? :confused:

Just because Froome and Wiggins are disliked by the majority of forum posters and are British does not mean that every British rider is hated by the forum as a whole. If you bothered to read what has been said on the Yates brothers you would find they are liked by many here.

Re. your last paragraph. I really don't understand what your saying here. Why do you feel the need to mock riders from other nations? And who ever said that Britain, Colombia, and Spain didn't have the best GT riders?
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