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23 Aug 2017 20:20


Of course we are not convinced by Alaphalippe because he's not in 100% condition - As some have posted he's a chance to win a stage at the Vuelta if he rides into the race - You have no idea about Chaves - Dauphine and the TDF were training rides HOPING he would have form for the Vuelta.


So, if i have no idea, how do you explain that Chaves was better in the Dauphine than in the TDF, if not for the mental aspect ? And than he is so much better in the Vuelta only 3 weeks later after being gruppetto on every single mountain stage in the Tour bar the first week without any signs of improvement ?

And i am not convinced by Julian because he doesn't seems better than in Burgos right now, not because he isn't at 100%.
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23 Aug 2017 22:18

No two riders are alike. Comparing different injuries, circumstances always lead to...opinions. Yours is as good as mine.

With regards to Alaphilippe, he be competitive on muritos, reduced bunch sprints, breakaways. That's quite a few opportunities. The odds are good that he'll get one.
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Re: Julian Alaphilippe

24 Aug 2017 02:00

Tonton wrote:No two riders are alike. Comparing different injuries, circumstances always lead to...opinions. Yours is as good as mine.

With regards to Alaphilippe, he be competitive on muritos, reduced bunch sprints, breakaways. That's quite a few opportunities. The odds are good that he'll get one.

Agree.

from http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vuelta-a-espana-alaphilippe-not-yet-100-per-cent-but-feeling-very-good/
Julian Alaphilippe admits he is not yet back to 100 per cent fitness following his long injury lay-off, but says he's not far off as his comeback continues with an encouraging start to the Vuelta a Espana.
He has played his part in two stage wins for his Quick Step Floor team in the space of the Vuelta's first four days.
Firstly, on stage 2, he was the instigator of the late split that led to Yves Lampaert's solo victory, and on Tuesday's stage 4 he took control in the final couple of kilometres to join Lampaert in leading Matteo Trentin to victory.
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The question I have is why is he doing so much work on stage 2 & 4? He used up a lot energy helping his team mate to win 2 stages while he is not yet 100% on form. Today, Julian finished 7th while Lampaert &Trentin finished 155th & 160th, about 11 minutes behind Julian. The point I try to make is that Julian can't work on sprinter stage then also expect to win on stage like today.

Through QSF press release regarding today’s race:
"If you don't try, you never win, and today I wanted to try something. I am still easing back into racing, so I wanted to see how far I could go on this stage which normally would have suited me. I'm not satisfied with the result, but I'm happy with the legs, because I could feel that I'm slowly getting into shape, and this is the positive thing I'll take from this stage", said Julian, who remained confident other opportunities will come, for both him and the team. "We've had a really good Vuelta so far and I'm sure we will get many other good results if we keep riding like this."
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Re: Julian Alaphilippe

24 Aug 2017 04:19

can3478 wrote:
Tonton wrote:No two riders are alike. Comparing different injuries, circumstances always lead to...opinions. Yours is as good as mine.

With regards to Alaphilippe, he be competitive on muritos, reduced bunch sprints, breakaways. That's quite a few opportunities. The odds are good that he'll get one.

Agree.

from http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vuelta-a-espana-alaphilippe-not-yet-100-per-cent-but-feeling-very-good/
Julian Alaphilippe admits he is not yet back to 100 per cent fitness following his long injury lay-off, but says he's not far off as his comeback continues with an encouraging start to the Vuelta a Espana.
He has played his part in two stage wins for his Quick Step Floor team in the space of the Vuelta's first four days.
Firstly, on stage 2, he was the instigator of the late split that led to Yves Lampaert's solo victory, and on Tuesday's stage 4 he took control in the final couple of kilometres to join Lampaert in leading Matteo Trentin to victory.
...

The question I have is why is he doing so much work on stage 2 & 4? He used up a lot energy helping his team mate to win 2 stages while he is not yet 100% on form. Today, Julian finished 7th while Lampaert &Trentin finished 155th & 160th, about 11 minutes behind Julian. The point I try to make is that Julian can't work on sprinter stage then also expect to win on stage like today.

Through QSF press release regarding today’s race:
"If you don't try, you never win, and today I wanted to try something. I am still easing back into racing, so I wanted to see how far I could go on this stage which normally would have suited me. I'm not satisfied with the result, but I'm happy with the legs, because I could feel that I'm slowly getting into shape, and this is the positive thing I'll take from this stage", said Julian, who remained confident other opportunities will come, for both him and the team. "We've had a really good Vuelta so far and I'm sure we will get many other good results if we keep riding like this."


Quick step is here to win stages - Alaphilippe will have to help others even though he might have personal ambitions. So far it's been worth it. They've got two stage wins. From a team perspective, it doesn't matter if he's burning himself up on the flats, as long as someone is winning. If he was sacrificing himself for nothing, you could say it was a waste. That's not the case right now.

All that said, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that he's working for the team. He hasn't raced that much this year....I doubt he's gonna burn himself out helping the team some in the early parts of the race. Trentin won't be going for stage wins that much.
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24 Aug 2017 08:33

He wasn't strong enough to win stage in the first stages, so it was best for the team to work for its teammates, with success ! And Quick-Step will reward him by allowing to take breakaways like yesterday.
Oddly today's stage is much more fitted to its current state than yesterday's. At the moment he can't in a murito even in a break, but he could win a breakaway sprint. So he may try again to take the breakaway today.
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26 Aug 2017 15:14

Glad he proved me wrong !

Awesome win today, super strong to follow Majka like he did and he first ever GT win. Champagne !
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26 Aug 2017 15:19

Chrispol wrote:Glad he proved me wrong !

Awesome win today, super strong to follow Majka like he did and he first ever GT win. Champagne !

Oui. Champagne ;) .
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26 Aug 2017 18:19

He's slowly becoming Valverde :p
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17 Sep 2017 01:44

Aside from a stage win, Alaphilippe contributed a lot to the other 5 QS wins at Vuelta a España . Here is an example of such
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZE6NwoDKhd/?hl=en&taken-by=quickstep_team

and that hug at the end between Trentin and Alaphilippe.
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17 Sep 2017 04:19

The forgotten rider in discussions for the world's RR - Can win it if he is brave.
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23 Sep 2017 16:43

From Quick-Step Cycling twitter:
The charismatic @alafpolak talks of #LV2017 and his expectations for #Bergen2017:
http://www.quickstepfloorscycling.com/en/news/detail/julian-alaphilippe-i-would-love-to-be-in-the-mix-for-the-rainbow-jersey/3369

Julian named as team leader for the world
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Photo from La GazetteDes Sports twitter, the french team out for a ride this morning
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24 Sep 2017 09:43

I can't really see him win this. If he opens a gap on the hill, he will always have a better sprinter with him (sagan, gva, kwiato ...). I have more hope for Gallopin for the French as he is a bit underestimated and could sneak away more easily
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24 Sep 2017 13:01

LeChuck wrote: I have more hope for Gallopin for the French as he is a bit underestimated and could sneak away more easily

That is a possibility, Gallopin said he has been preparing for WC all season.

Don't forget, Julian always does well when he wears the french jersey. He was 4th at Rio's Olympics, and finished 2nd at 2016 European Championship behind Segan.

Good luck to the french team.
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24 Sep 2017 14:44

Great spirit today, sadly it wasn't meant to be it seems.
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24 Sep 2017 14:48

So disappointed after the great race he made today. :(

But at least, he is back at his best. Please no more injury Julian. :p
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24 Sep 2017 14:50

Deserved to win
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Re: Julian Alaphilippe

24 Sep 2017 15:09

Great ride, but he did make the tactical mistake of dropping Moscon. That was probably decisive.
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24 Sep 2017 15:15

fauniera wrote:Great ride, but he did make the tactical mistake of dropping Moscon. That was probably decisive.

No. I think Moscon was dead.

Alaphilippe tried, but the final stretch after the hill was too long.
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24 Sep 2017 15:22

That's not what i meant. The Italians started riding only after Moscon was dropped. That was probably decisive. Before that a sole Dane was working in the peloton.
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24 Sep 2017 15:31

Really impressive ride today. At this level in the Ardennes I don't there will be many to challenge him.
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