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31 May 2016 19:39

He also speaks fluent French.
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31 May 2016 19:43

And Italian as well.
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31 May 2016 19:48

SafeBet wrote:I don't think he's so much worse than a couple of years ago honestly.
Take away the last stage (apparently sick) and he would probably be in the top10. His best result in a GT is 5th. Doesn't look like a steep decline to me.

Even without that last stage, a completely anonymous 10th place is far from what he delivered in 2012-2014: inconsistent races where he faded or had bad days, but where, on his best days, he could climb with the best. And even win a stage.

There's usually a world of difference between coming 5th and 10th, too, in terms of performance.
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31 May 2016 19:49

Arredondo wrote:And Italian as well.

Italian is his mother tongue, French isn't, that's what makes it noteworthy.
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31 May 2016 19:52

hrotha wrote:Even without that last stage, a completely anonymous 10th place is far from what he delivered in 2012-2014: inconsistent races where he faded or had bad days, but where, on his best days, he could climb with the best. And even win a stage.

There's usually a world of difference between coming 5th and 10th, too, in terms of performance.

This is true.
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31 May 2016 19:53

CheckMyPecs wrote:
Arredondo wrote:And Italian as well.

Italian is his mother tongue, French isn't, that's what makes it noteworthy.


It's late i suppose ;)
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31 May 2016 19:55

He's also interested in history, technology, economics, politics and weather forecasting.

He really is the Einstein of the modern peloton (not that it's particularly difficult).
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31 May 2016 19:59

Arredondo wrote:
CheckMyPecs wrote:
Arredondo wrote:And Italian as well.

Italian is his mother tongue, French isn't, that's what makes it noteworthy.


It's late i suppose ;)


Yeah... might not be necessary to point out that an Italian guy speaks Italian. :p


Wasn't there another thread? You know, one that isn't an Injury Update/Get Well Soon thread.
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31 May 2016 20:38

Hey, he could have been a native Neapolitan speaker. And time-traveler, I suppose.
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31 May 2016 20:43

He said his performance was a humiliation. Being the introspective wiz evidently doesn't allow the beast within to flourish.
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31 May 2016 20:50

What's next for Pozzo?
Dauphine? Suisse?
Tour or Vuelta?
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31 May 2016 20:59

Pozzo will go full oscar pereiro Sio in the TdF
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31 May 2016 21:04

CheckMyPecs wrote:He's also interested in history, technology, economics, politics and weather forecasting.

He really is the Einstein of the modern peloton (not that it's particularly difficult).


With regard to something like mechanical doping is that a good or a bad thing? When I read or hear about those motor rumours I always have to think about results like his Vuelta TT in Tarazona. Should I blame myself for this? &#128528
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31 May 2016 21:04

I've always liked Pozzo. I admire his intelligence and seems like a really nice person
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31 May 2016 21:12

liamito wrote:
CheckMyPecs wrote:He's also interested in history, technology, economics, politics and weather forecasting.

He really is the Einstein of the modern peloton (not that it's particularly difficult).


With regard to something like mechanical doping is that a good or a bad thing? When I read or hear about those motor rumours I always have to think about results like his Vuelta TT in Tarazona. Should I blame myself for this? &#128528

It's not because he's smart that he's an engine designer.
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31 May 2016 23:25

We all know that doping discussions don't belong here. Thank you.

IMO, he's just overrated. Settimana Lombarda '11, mountain stage, he was top-5, but way behind Pinot (winner). A few nice performances (well, Ellisonde won on the Angliru - should he be heralded as a GT contender?), he's good, really good. But not THAT good. TdS '15, Pinot was wary of him, letting the other guys in the picture, attacked too late, but still got a gap. Pozzo could be a great stage chaser, but GC wise, no way. In a team, as a dom, he'd be great.
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01 Jun 2016 01:40

Tonton wrote:We all know that doping discussions don't belong here. Thank you.

IMO, he's just overrated. Settimana Lombarda '11, mountain stage, he was top-5, but way behind Pinot (winner). A few nice performances (well, Ellisonde won on the Angliru - should he be heralded as a GT contender?), he's good, really good. But not THAT good. TdS '15, Pinot was wary of him, letting the other guys in the picture, attacked too late, but still got a gap. Pozzo could be a great stage chaser, but GC wise, no way. In a team, as a dom, he'd be great.
Relax, man. There's no need for bashing him so heavy. He's no threat to domestic Tour leadership. Magnitude of the hype surrounding Pozzo is limited to expectation he'll once get in the podium mix at a lesser GT. And that isn't exactly something deserving two contemptuous elaboratons, and hardly compareable to the hype surrounding French hopes... throughout decades.
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01 Jun 2016 08:07

Yeah Tonton, its probably a little harsh bringing TdS forth considering he just got back from the horrendous crash at the Giro.. give the man a break.

Father time is coming. Interesting to see whether he chooses, as Scarponi did, to be a full time mountain domestique or keeps chasing top-10's in the Giro. Maybe he will start the Cunego/Garzelli approach and start hunting stage wins and the climbers jersey.
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01 Jun 2016 08:31

CheckMyPecs wrote:He's also interested in history, technology, economics, politics and weather forecasting.

He really is the Einstein of the modern peloton (not that it's particularly difficult).



Do not forget that he plays the piano! He did live in some giro shows
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01 Jun 2016 09:33

SafeBet wrote:I don't think he's so much worse than a couple of years ago honestly.
Take away the last stage (apparently sick) and he would probably be in the top10. His best result in a GT is 5th. Doesn't look like a steep decline to me.

typical scorebord assumptions. I guess you didn't watch the giri he rode then.
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