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16 May 2018 05:53

Yingge wrote:Chaves loss of time reminded me of the TdF stage back in 2009 (Stage 17) when Cadel Evans lost 29 minutes (he was already about 5 min down) to the Schleck's and Contador for no apparent reason (I suspect his brain had told him on the rest day that 2009 was not his to win and he maybe just gave up). Who knows, Chaves might just bounce back at Innsbruck in September.

I thought he crashed
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16 May 2018 09:52

Scarponi wrote:
Yingge wrote:Chaves loss of time reminded me of the TdF stage back in 2009 (Stage 17) when Cadel Evans lost 29 minutes (he was already about 5 min down) to the Schleck's and Contador for no apparent reason (I suspect his brain had told him on the rest day that 2009 was not his to win and he maybe just gave up). Who knows, Chaves might just bounce back at Innsbruck in September.

I thought he crashed


Evans crashed in TdF 2008 and 2010. In 2009 TdF word is he just had bad form. But I don't think anyone could say Chaves had bad form this Giro with what we saw before stage 10.
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16 May 2018 10:13

I remember when Gesink was still a GC rider (seems like eons ago), he also had difficulty when they started the stage straight with a big climb. He'd do specific preperation on the rollers before the stage to avoid getting dropped like a stone. JvdB also had such a problem.
But those guys were both diesels.

Chaves is explosive, so maybe he just had some sort of post restday syndrome
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16 May 2018 10:39

Cookster15 wrote:
Scarponi wrote:
Yingge wrote:Chaves loss of time reminded me of the TdF stage back in 2009 (Stage 17) when Cadel Evans lost 29 minutes (he was already about 5 min down) to the Schleck's and Contador for no apparent reason (I suspect his brain had told him on the rest day that 2009 was not his to win and he maybe just gave up). Who knows, Chaves might just bounce back at Innsbruck in September.

I thought he crashed


Evans crashed in TdF 2008 and 2010. In 2009 TdF word is he just had bad form. But I don't think anyone could say Chaves had bad form this Giro with what we saw before stage 10.


Sounds like hay fever didn't help. Rest day syndrome probably contributed. It always gets one of the GC riders at least.
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16 May 2018 12:51

Mayomaniac wrote:Like I said, before the Giro I've never seen him with such a bloated face:
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So it wouldn't surprise me if allergies (or something like that) were already bothering him a bit before that and that the combination of that + sore throat was actually too much for him.

That really looks bloated face. Last year I noticed something during the Tour de France and I thought he was over weight and someone in this forum got very upset at me. But probably he is having some serious issues with allergies. It should not have been a factor during the Tour because it was the middle of the summer but you never know.
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18 May 2018 16:46

Last in the stage. He looks sick. Maybe time to retire. I don't see how He can be of any help like this to Yates.
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18 May 2018 17:07

At first I thought he was saving power for Zonc the previous stages (after the blow), but now I think something is clearly wrong here.
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18 May 2018 17:43

There is a silver lining in every cloud - Makes it more likely that MS could retain Yates x 2 with Chaves' issues - You can't have him as a GC leader after his erratic form in the last 12 months
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18 May 2018 23:11

yaco wrote:There is a silver lining in every cloud - Makes it more likely that MS could retain Yates x 2 with Chaves' issues - You can't have him as a GC leader after his erratic form in the last 12 months



Maybe another go at the Vuelta, If he is sick there is not much that can be done.
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03 Aug 2018 14:34

Anybody has some details of what his health problems are?
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03 Aug 2018 15:03

He will not ride the Vuelta.
This article says he's been battling unspecified viral infection since the Giro.
https://www.pulzo.com/deportes/equipo-mitchelton-deja-esteban-chaves-vuelta-espana-PP533683

Edit: It also says that he keeps training and, for now, he has not been pulled from other races of the 2nd part of the season.
All that according to his father.
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03 Aug 2018 15:16

Think Chaves is currently training in the Basque area of Spain - DNP Old may know more.
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03 Aug 2018 15:50

Thanks.

That's strange.
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03 Aug 2018 21:17

When is Chavito's contract due?
gotta say this entire year has become a nightmare for him, as expectations were high for Il Giro, but with that "bug" it seems like very, very concerning health issue it seems :( I was hoping to see him riding la Vuelta in a type of redemption way, but by the way it looks, he might be looking to ride Lombardia at best & shut it down all together for the next year...? damn it!!!
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Re: Esteban Chaves Discussion Thread

04 Aug 2018 00:13

hfer07 wrote:When is Chavito's contract due?
gotta say this entire year has become a nightmare for him, as expectations were high for Il Giro, but with that "bug" it seems like very, very concerning health issue it seems :( I was hoping to see him riding la Vuelta in a type of redemption way, but by the way it looks, he might be looking to ride Lombardia at best & shut it down all together for the next year...? damn it!!!


After his two podiums in 2016 in the Giro and Vuelta he seemed to be on an upward trajectory but it hasn't happened in the past 18 months for a variety of reasons re injuries and illness. Now that Michelton have extended the contracts for the Yates bros I wonder how long they will give Chaves to get back to a good level. Obviously he has good relations with the team.
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04 Aug 2018 02:09

I think they'll give him a bit more time to get things sorted. You don't easily give up on a young-ish guy with 2 GT podiums and a monument win too quickly. And he did win both a stage race and a Giro stage this year so he hasn't completely fallen apart. That said, at some point they won't be able to pay him like a top rider unless he can figure things out. On another note, I saw they just brought his younger brother on as a stagiaire.
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04 Aug 2018 03:08

Chaves is contracted for 2019 - He will stay for the team indefinitely, though it could be in a different role with different expectations.
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09 Aug 2018 21:58

Mononucleosis. He had surgery. Hope that he gets well soon. I think he is done for the season.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chaves-to-miss-vuelta-a-espana-after-being-diagnosed-with-mononucleosis/
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17 Nov 2018 16:37

Escarabajo wrote:Mononucleosis. He had surgery. Hope that he gets well soon. I think he is done for the season.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chaves-to-miss-vuelta-a-espana-after-being-diagnosed-with-mononucleosis/

Seems to be on the way to returning to the peloton. Hopes to be at the Tour of Colombia (with the National team if Mitchelton Scott don't go) and the Giro.
http://www.federacioncolombianadeciclismo.com/ruta/me-gustaria-que-el-mitchelton-viniera-o-estar-con-la-seleccion-en-el-tour-colombia-esteban-chaves/
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18 Nov 2018 05:13

Take it to the bank that Chaves is riding in Colombia in February - My understanding is he will ride the Giro, though he is GC target will be the Vuelta - An important year for Chaves as it will determine his GC credentials with MS beyond 2019.
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