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Thibaut Pinot discussion thread

16 Jun 2015 23:58

All big names in cycling, and even lesser riders (often for the wrong reasons :rolleyes: ) have a thread on this forum, but I couldn't find one dedicated to this very young rider with (already) three top-10 in GTs, my fellow Franc-Comtois Thibaut Pinot. Obviously the French public is starving for French GT contenders/winners. I like to mess with Netserk's signature, so: is Thibaut Pinot like Rubber Soul, really good and way underrated? He seems to have room for improvement, real talent, and he comes from a place where people work hard and are resilient. What is the ceiling? What do you think of his performances, what he did yesterday, today, and what do you anticipate tomorrow?
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17 Jun 2015 00:14

I'd like to see him target the Giro and/or Vuelta, also some short stage races, especially the big 7. I believe it would be a mistake to just target the Tour every single year without getting a few wins beforehand.
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17 Jun 2015 00:42

He is the forgotten rider in this year's Tour. He did well last year but this will be much harder as I can't to see the top four all going out of contention like last year and Nibali was much to good for him in 2014. But he is young and will improve. At his best could make top 5 but will have to beat Valverde and Rodriguez which might be easier than finishing ahead of TJVG and a few others. To make the top 7 this year won't be easy for anyone outside the best four riders. Valverde will be working for Quintana anyway and Rodriguez has seen better days. Talansky is possibly an outside chance as well of making the top 5 as well.
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17 Jun 2015 00:45

I expect him to be good tomorrow, but nothing to crazy. Last year in the Tour de Suisse he was so so and then we all know what he went on to do. I think he'll be better tomorrow than he was at this time last year; but surely he won't be as good as he will once July comes. I think Fuglsang and maybe Majka could beat him tomorrow.

At the Tour it will be interesting to see what he can do. Even if he is better than last year he'll have a hard time podiuming. I do think he'll be the best after the big four.
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17 Jun 2015 01:06

Sciocco wrote:I'd like to see him target the Giro and/or Vuelta, also some short stage races, especially the big 7. I believe it would be a mistake to just target the Tour every single year without getting a few wins beforehand.

He won't have a choice, but you're right. I think he would have podiumed the Giro. Not won it: Bertie was a bit too good for him...yet. But he's so young.
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17 Jun 2015 01:16

Jspear wrote:I expect him to be good tomorrow, but nothing to crazy. Last year in the Tour de Suisse he was so so and then we all know what he went on to do. I think he'll be better tomorrow than he was at this time last year; but surely he won't be as good as he will once July comes. I think Fuglsang and maybe Majka could beat him tomorrow.

At the Tour it will be interesting to see what he can do. Even if he is better than last year he'll have a hard time podiuming. I do think he'll be the best after the big four.

What scares me is that if he or Bardet suck wheels, 5th, 6th is the max that they can do. Unless favorites drop like last year. There will be a guy (or two) taking a chance/breakaway and sneaking into 3rd or 4th place. I love what I see in Switzerland so far and the way he built up. Tomorrow's stage will be interesting indeed. If he goes all out and wins big, the surprise factor in the TdF will be gone. He'll be a marked man. He needs to remain a non-threat to the big 4, so he can put an attack in July that no team will want to pursue at all cost. He needs a breakaway to mitigate the TTT: French teams usually $uck in the TTT.
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17 Jun 2015 06:24

With his improved descending skills, I really want to see him and Bardet do what Bardet did on the Col d'Allos descent in the Dauphine.
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17 Jun 2015 07:07

I have high expectations of him. Will be among the best climbers this tdf.
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17 Jun 2015 09:19

I really hope that he can finish top 5, which is certainly possible, and hopefully hang on to the big 4 on 1-2 mountain stage(s), or take a stage win! Have been rooting for him since 2012, and was so sad to see him fail in the 2013 Tour, but he got over the "trauma" (as he called it) very well.
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17 Jun 2015 10:51


Wow! I went back on the thread list quite far. I ran a search too. Maybe keywords "Pinot thread" instead of "Pinot" would have worked better. Still, it's a shame it went dormant in October '13.
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17 Jun 2015 15:59

Allons Enfants De La Patri-i-e :D
Great performance for Pinot today. He was too far behind when starting the climb, though...
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17 Jun 2015 16:08

Average Pinot did an average Froome on that climb. Fantastic effort to come back and win.

And I don't like Froome. :D
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17 Jun 2015 16:09

So we have the big six now ;)
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17 Jun 2015 16:12

Arredondo wrote:So we have the big six now ;)

Who's the fifth?
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17 Jun 2015 16:14

Great ride today, especially the last kilometers :) A pity he wasn't up there at the beginning of the climb, and had to play catch-up..
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17 Jun 2015 16:15

Hugo Koblet wrote:
Arredondo wrote:So we have the big six now ;)

Who's the fifth?


Don't you see his avatar? :p
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17 Jun 2015 16:17

BlurryVII wrote:
Hugo Koblet wrote:
Arredondo wrote:So we have the big six now ;)

Who's the fifth?


Don't you see his avatar? :p

Well, the guy on my avatar is closer to belonging among the big 5, so I assume it's not Jrod :D
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17 Jun 2015 16:20

Hugo Koblet wrote:
Arredondo wrote:So we have the big six now ;)

Who's the fifth?


You know who i mean. The spanish explosive guy who will finish on the podium :p
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17 Jun 2015 16:22

Arredondo wrote:
Hugo Koblet wrote:
Arredondo wrote:So we have the big six now ;)

Who's the fifth?


You know who i mean. The spanish explosive guy who will finish on the podium :p

Yeah, he might have a decent chance if he collects some bonus seconds in the first part. However, I think he will have to sacrifice himself for Quintana.
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