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18 Jul 2018 08:43

he lost nothing on the final climb (even gained 2 seconds or something) and only 20 or 30 on the second climb. He lost most time in the descends and false flats. (half/pace by others)
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18 Jul 2018 08:47

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:he lost nothing on the final climb (even gained 2 seconds or something) and only 20 or 30 on the second climb. He lost most time in the descends and false flats. (half/pace by others)



The second wait for Reichenbach seemed weird, he was dropped on the second climb from the group, but then he was back with them, why did Tom wait
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18 Jul 2018 08:50

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:The time difference in the Giro was not needed to be so big. If Dumoulin rode on his own he would have probably lost between 1'00 (his uphill timeloss) and 1'30 (add some on the flats), rather than 3'30 (because of waiting in the downhills).

But it seems hard / impossible not to lose less than 1'00 to Froome over all these mountain stages. And he's already 20 seconds behind. I do not think a fatigued Dumoulin can make up even close to 1'20 on Froome in that time trial, even though it's a far better time trial for Dumoulin than the high speed Giro one. I think the possible time win is more in the margin of '20-40 seconds.. That's why I think only podium/top 5 is possible if he doesn't collapse completely. And that is already quite good after Giro.
Might as well do a Yates in the 3rd week and end 35th. We don't know


Exactly the level I was thinking against Froome/Roglic and Thomas. It is indeed difficult to see Tom pulling that out from the hat here, but the time will tell.

Personally I think Roglic is going to drop in the next 2 stages, thus it is mainly against Froome/Thomas. And maybe Nibs who should be pretty OK in the hilly TT as well.
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18 Jul 2018 09:07

Dumoulin will be happy if teams are conservative in the remaining mountain stages as he can make up time in the ITT.
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18 Jul 2018 15:43

**** heroic. Alone vs Sky and nobody wanted to work with him. Not Valv, not Thomas.

Could do 3rd place after the Stormtroopers 1-2
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18 Jul 2018 15:44

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:**** heroic. Alone vs Sky and nobody wanted to work with him. Not Valv, not Thomas.

Could do 3rd place after the Stormtroopers 1-2

Ofc Valv didnt want to work with him, he was on the limit..

Amazing performance, very surprised.
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18 Jul 2018 15:44

Nothing but respect for Dumoulin
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18 Jul 2018 15:48

Not a big fan of Dumoulin, but I was cheering for him today when he attacked because he took risks and it kinda paid off. Beating Froome for 2nd place bonus seconds was nice as well.
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18 Jul 2018 15:51

People keep saying he isn't a 'pure' climber... For me he definitely is! Awesome climbing today and the only one who can put pressure on sky, next time with a late attack.
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18 Jul 2018 15:52

excellent performance. I just hope he does not pay the effort tomorrow
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18 Jul 2018 16:00

Yes he did looked absolutely battered after the finish. But he went into this Tour as a bonus. So we'll see.
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18 Jul 2018 16:06

Ok, so he did all this to honor his uncle, who learned him how to ski in this village. His uncle died this spring, 2 weeks after his aunt died.
He really wanted to win the stage but Thomas was too strong.
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18 Jul 2018 16:07

Podium up for grabs this year.With Porte out,Dumoulin's got a great chance.I don't see him winning it all,but a podium place looks very possible.
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18 Jul 2018 16:08

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Ok, so he did all this to honor his uncle, who learned him how to ski in this village. His uncle died this spring, 2 weeks after his aunt died.
He really wanted to win the stage but Thomas was too strong.

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But a heroic ride today.
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18 Jul 2018 16:15

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Ok, so he did all this to honor his uncle, who learned him how to ski in this village. His uncle died this spring, 2 weeks after his aunt died.
He really wanted to win the stage but Thomas was too strong.


Probably gave absolutely everything he had today then... great ride

Not too optimistic about tomorrow but I hope he can recover.
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18 Jul 2018 19:11

Stunning performance once again, this guy keeps surprising me. I know I said he would fade in the end but at this point it wouldn't shock me to see him hold on and finish on the podium.
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18 Jul 2018 19:14

I am rooting for Tom Dumoulin. He is now the hope of the side and nobody in Sky can be too cocky about the TT whilst Tom is within striking range. Remember 2017 Giro. Hopefully this years Giro does not take its toll next week. Go you good thing!
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18 Jul 2018 19:16

Salvarani wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Ok, so he did all this to honor his uncle, who learned him how to ski in this village. His uncle died this spring, 2 weeks after his aunt died.
He really wanted to win the stage but Thomas was too strong.


Probably gave absolutely everything he had today then... great ride

Not too optimistic about tomorrow but I hope he can recover.


He recovered fine in the 2017 Giro after a far more demanding effort on the "poop" stage. He will be fine tomorrow. Next week is the question.
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18 Jul 2018 20:56

Maybe he can grab a podium place and get to be a SKY dom next year.
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18 Jul 2018 21:01

Valv.Piti wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:**** heroic. Alone vs Sky and nobody wanted to work with him. Not Valv, not Thomas.

Could do 3rd place after the Stormtroopers 1-2

Ofc Valv didnt want to work with him, he was on the limit..

Amazing performance, very surprised.

And of course Thomas didn’t work, he was waiting for Froome.
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