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17 Aug 2015 13:16

TMP402 wrote:Movistar's team doesn't seem wonderfully strong.


Nairo Quintana (Col), Alejandro Valverde (Spa), Andrey Amador (CRc), Giovanni Visconti (Ita), Rory Sutherland (Aus), Javi Moreno (Spa), Imanol Erviti (Spa), Fran Ventoso (Spa) and José Joaquín Rojas (Spa).

Not too impressive.Some bigger names were left out,strange choices.
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17 Aug 2015 13:16

TMP402 wrote:
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Team Sky for Vuelta a Espana: Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas, Nicolas Roche, Sergio Henao, Mikel Nieve, Vasil Kiryienka, Christian Knees, Ian Boswell, Salvatore Puccio.


Hard to understand the decision of not selecting Deignan and Lopez :( At least Henao made it this time.The team looks decent on paper but i have doubts about Thomas and Roche form.


Agreed that I can't see Thomas being as helpful as in the Tour, but Roche may have lost some weight and has apparently done two GTs in a year several times so who knows.

I didnt expect that Thomas would be even almost as helpful in the mountains of the tour, as he finally was, so I wont underestimate him. I just hope that they aren't in good shape because I don't want to see another sky train gt. Its okay if froome races good and causes some great attacks but please not mtf's like last year when froome pulled alberto up the mountain although he was behind him.
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17 Aug 2015 13:29

DBotero wrote:
TMP402 wrote:Movistar's team doesn't seem wonderfully strong.


Nairo Quintana (Col), Alejandro Valverde (Spa), Andrey Amador (CRc), Giovanni Visconti (Ita), Rory Sutherland (Aus), Javi Moreno (Spa), Imanol Erviti (Spa), Fran Ventoso (Spa) and José Joaquín Rojas (Spa).

Not too impressive.Some bigger names were left out,strange choices.


Anton is a shadow of what he was but he could still put some work to his leaders and his shape in Poland wasn't that bad (working for Izagirre in Bukowina stage, for instance, and the last men to be dropped in the team except for the leader). Better than Sutherland, for instance. I guess that the undesired riders for 2016 were sent to Tour du Limousin and some of them could be of good assistance (Team Gadret, Capecchi, Antón, etc.)
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17 Aug 2015 15:23

Van Asbroeck
Bennett
Keizer
Lindeman
Roosen
Teunissen
Tjallingii
Van Winden
Wynants

Awful team...breakaways galore i guess..Asbroeck found the step up tough but could get result or so.
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17 Aug 2015 15:28

Gloin22 wrote:Van Asbroeck
Bennett
Keizer
Lindeman
Roosen
Teunissen
Tjallingii
Van Winden
Wynants

Awful team...breakaways galore i guess..Asbroeck found the step up tough but could get result or so.

That is an embarrassing team.
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17 Aug 2015 16:40

DBotero wrote:
TMP402 wrote:Movistar's team doesn't seem wonderfully strong.


Nairo Quintana (Col), Alejandro Valverde (Spa), Andrey Amador (CRc), Giovanni Visconti (Ita), Rory Sutherland (Aus), Javi Moreno (Spa), Imanol Erviti (Spa), Fran Ventoso (Spa) and José Joaquín Rojas (Spa).

Not too impressive.Some bigger names were left out,strange choices.


I agree with you. Unzue has prefered the 'fresh' riders Sutherland and Moreno above the riders who did a GT already and were preparing for the Vuelta ( Jose Herrada and Intxausti) I think the departure of Intxausti clarifies his absence in the equipe. Capecchi is also likely to leave ( No GT for him this year) Rojas and Ventoso for the flat protecting Quintana and Valverde.
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17 Aug 2015 16:48

Argh, why wasn't Castroviejo selected for Movistar? They look very weak for the TTT...
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17 Aug 2015 17:04

AlexNYC wrote:Argh, why wasn't Castroviejo selected for Movistar? They look very weak for the TTT...


It's a pretty short TTT though right? I can't imagine they'd lose that much.
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17 Aug 2015 17:16

AlexNYC wrote:Argh, why wasn't Castroviejo selected for Movistar? They look very weak for the TTT...


They look very strong. Valverde, Erviti, Amador, Ventoso, Rojas and Visconti are all very strong on the flat.
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17 Aug 2015 17:23

Only Nieve and Henao will be very strong from Sky,maybe Thomas if he recovered,others not so much.But who cares when we have Astana train here ;)

Movistar team is another master tactic by Unzue lol
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17 Aug 2015 17:40

Son of Amsterhammer wrote:
AlexNYC wrote:Argh, why wasn't Castroviejo selected for Movistar? They look very weak for the TTT...


It's a pretty short TTT though right? I can't imagine they'd lose that much.


I think they will win the TTT!
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17 Aug 2015 17:59

DBotero wrote:
MatParker117 wrote:
Team Sky for Vuelta a Espana: Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas, Nicolas Roche, Sergio Henao, Mikel Nieve, Vasil Kiryienka, Christian Knees, Ian Boswell, Salvatore Puccio.


Hard to understand the decision of not selecting Deignan and Lopez :( At least Henao made it this time.The team looks decent on paper but i have doubts about Thomas and Roche form.


Deignan has just returned from a broken collarbone and was a bit inconsistent in Poland so I can understand that decision. Lopez is very unlucky not to ride a grand tour this year but he hasn't helped himself with poor performances at the last two he's ridden (2013 and 2014 Tdf).

Roche has a history of performing much better at the Vuelta than at the Tour when he does the double so there's a pretty good chance he'll be in solid form. With Thomas there's a big question mark, I agree, he's likely to struggle.
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17 Aug 2015 18:24

DBotero wrote:
TMP402 wrote:Movistar's team doesn't seem wonderfully strong.


Nairo Quintana (Col), Alejandro Valverde (Spa), Andrey Amador (CRc), Giovanni Visconti (Ita), Rory Sutherland (Aus), Javi Moreno (Spa), Imanol Erviti (Spa), Fran Ventoso (Spa) and José Joaquín Rojas (Spa).

Not too impressive.Some bigger names were left out,strange choices.


It could be even stronger, but come on, that's a pretty damn strong team! Amador and Visconti were their strongest riders at the Giro. Moreno and Sutherland are fresh for the Vuelta. Erviti, Ventoso and Rojas are all strong riders and will look after their captains on the flat.

According to Pro Cycling Stats, Movistar is the strongest team on paper in the race, followed by Sky and then Astana. Of course in reality, Astana is likely to be the strongest but Sky and Movistar are also very strong.
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17 Aug 2015 20:06

Gloin22 wrote:Van Asbroeck
Bennett
Keizer
Lindeman
Roosen
Teunissen
Tjallingii
Van Winden
Wynants

Awful team...breakaways galore i guess..Asbroeck found the step up tough but could get result or so.

I think they had the riders pick straws to see which unlucky riders would end up on the Vuelta squad.
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17 Aug 2015 21:57

JRanton wrote:Roche has a history of performing much better at the Vuelta than at the Tour when he does the double so there's a pretty good chance he'll be in solid form. With Thomas there's a big question mark, I agree, he's likely to struggle.


Yep, his Tour -> Vuelta double results:
14 -> 6
25 -> 16
12 -> 12
40 -> 5
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17 Aug 2015 23:31

Movistar will have the 4th from il Giro and 2nd and 3rd from le Tour.
Astana will have the 2nd and 3rd from il Giro and the 4th from le Tour.
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17 Aug 2015 23:51

Gloin22 wrote:Van Asbroeck
Bennett
Keizer
Lindeman
Roosen
Teunissen
Tjallingii
Van Winden
Wynants

Awful team...breakaways galore i guess..Asbroeck found the step up tough but could get result or so.


Good lord. For a split second, I wasn't even sure what team that was. :o
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18 Aug 2015 06:06

DBotero wrote:
TMP402 wrote:Movistar's team doesn't seem wonderfully strong.


Nairo Quintana (Col), Alejandro Valverde (Spa), Andrey Amador (CRc), Giovanni Visconti (Ita), Rory Sutherland (Aus), Javi Moreno (Spa), Imanol Erviti (Spa), Fran Ventoso (Spa) and José Joaquín Rojas (Spa).

Not too impressive.Some bigger names were left out,strange choices.


Indeed, I was really disappointed too when I saw the line-up. Where are the strong climbing domestiques and the TT specialists. And having Ventoso and Rojas is a bit redundant.
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18 Aug 2015 06:48

its vuelta, so many strong spaniards will be there. froome wont double - only hinault and anquetil did,real champs. but he can be useful for nieve ;). nairo...i am sceptical,but regarding he was not in decline in 3rd week tour,more likely than froome. nibali,aru,landa? no idea, but i expect superstrong landa who maybe is allowed to ride too late.purito and piti will be there, its law.
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18 Aug 2015 16:37

ILovecycling wrote:Only Nieve and Henao will be very strong from Sky,maybe Thomas if he recovered,others not so much.But who cares when we have Astana train here ;)

Movistar team is another master tactic by Unzue lol


So you're again criticizing Unzue, what team would you bring then? I'm really interested, cause I think this team is really well balanced between strong and fresh riders
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