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The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

18 Feb 2016 19:08

I've had this thread in my mind for awhile now. I've just been waiting for his first successful race/stage. 3rd place in a stage in Algarve isn't exactly what you'd call a big success, but with a bad shoulder (he dislocated it at TDU) it's a very nice result and a sign of good things to come.

This is a learning year for this young man. He is 26 but has the experience of a neo pro. Believe it or not, he bought his first bicycle in 2012. He is extremely talented and there's no doubt in my mind he can achieve some important results in the future. In a year or two I can see him fighting for a Giro podium. This year he is going to be a climbing domestic for Kruijswijk in the GIro.

I compared him to Landa because he can be this year's climbing sensation although in my opinion he won't reach the climbing level of Landa but he can become a better allrounder.

I can't wait to follow his improvement and his racing over the years. Discuss...
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18 Feb 2016 19:10

I don't know this guy, but I'm in on the bandwagon
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18 Feb 2016 19:10

I agree, great signing for Lotto btw, I hope he can show something in his first GT.
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Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

18 Feb 2016 19:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kSNVxtdwI

This is what happened to him in his first sports career.

Coming back from that and also transforming from a ski jumper to a cyclist. Tough Guy.
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18 Feb 2016 19:32

He's very complete athlete. besides being a tough nut, it seems.
Very different abilities needed for cycling in comparison to ski jumping, and he had success in both.
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Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

18 Feb 2016 19:35

Wow, that's really something. Ski jumping is.. very different :)
Hope he can shake things up in the GC every now and then!

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18 Feb 2016 19:42

At least he won't have acrophobia
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Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

18 Feb 2016 19:47

I am on the bandwagon (bust just because he rides for Lotto-Jumbo)

now, I can´t remember when was the last time a rider from Blanco-Belkin-Jumbo was 3rd in a MTF stage (main group, not breakaway) :D

go Primoz!
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Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

18 Feb 2016 19:58

pastronef wrote:I am on the bandwagon (bust just because he rides for Lotto-Jumbo)

now, I can´t remember when was the last time a rider from Blanco-Belkin-Jumbo was 3rd in a MTF stage (main group, not breakaway) :D

go Primoz!


Kruiswijk in the Giro last year?
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Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

18 Feb 2016 20:02

GenericBoonenFan wrote:
pastronef wrote:I am on the bandwagon (bust just because he rides for Lotto-Jumbo)

now, I can´t remember when was the last time a rider from Blanco-Belkin-Jumbo was 3rd in a MTF stage (main group, not breakaway) :D

go Primoz!


Kruiswijk in the Giro last year?


yep, forgot he was 2nd behind Landa.
while behind Tiralongo he was second, but he was in a breakaway
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18 Feb 2016 20:13

Primož has been somebody who deserved the step up for a while now, he's shown great climbing chops in pretty much everything he's entered. A lot of ski jumpers also XC ski in their youth before specialising (you often get Nordic Combined athletes out of that) so it's quite possible he had some background in endurance sport from that, but obviously ski jumping was his modus operandi. He'd obviously outgrown Adria Mobil, and it's quite a pleasant surprise to see a Slovene talent in recent years not go to the top via Lampre. Lotto Jumbo is a gamble, but he should at least get a bit of freedom there. My hope is that he can impact his first GT in the Arredondo kind of way, don't ask him to do too much for GC but let him animate the mountains. He's got something, let him show it that way rather than hanging on to the rear of the favourites group until he's got a couple years' more experience...
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Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

18 Feb 2016 20:57

He has huge potential. The comparision with landa is good, they are similar physycally and also in the position on the bike when they climb.
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18 Feb 2016 21:28

When this man has showed something similar to Landa in Neila?
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18 Feb 2016 21:37

Taxus4a wrote:When this man has showed something similar to Landa in Neila?

When has he raced against that kind of calibre field? Also, hard for him to show something like that so young; he's two months older than Landa, but when Landa did that amazing ride in Burgos, Roglič hadn't taken up cycling.

This is pretty useful, though admittedly he was probably peaking for his home race, while Nieve was coming off trying to peak for the Giro. Also there's Ulissi there; Ulissi is the same age as Roglič, but like Nieve he was already on a WT team by the time Roglič took up the sport. He was at the pointy end of anything hilly to mountainous that he entered last year, but also he was racing for Adria Mobil so there weren't too many races against high quality fields or on suitably mountainous parcours. Never underestimate beating the Iranian climbers either.

He's got potential. Give him a year or two to adapt to the WT.
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18 Feb 2016 22:19

Hold on; if I jump on the bandwagon now, can I still look down on the 'always been a massive fan of Reglivik' crowd when he illuminates the Giro?
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18 Feb 2016 22:32

Libertine Seguros wrote:Primož has been somebody who deserved the step up for a while now, he's shown great climbing chops in pretty much everything he's entered. A lot of ski jumpers also XC ski in their youth before specialising (you often get Nordic Combined athletes out of that) so it's quite possible he had some background in endurance sport from that, but obviously ski jumping was his modus operandi. He'd obviously outgrown Adria Mobil, and it's quite a pleasant surprise to see a Slovene talent in recent years not go to the top via Lampre. Lotto Jumbo is a gamble, but he should at least get a bit of freedom there. My hope is that he can impact his first GT in the Arredondo kind of way, don't ask him to do too much for GC but let him animate the mountains. He's got something, let him show it that way rather than hanging on to the rear of the favourites group until he's got a couple years' more experience...

Yes, that's the link I failed to connect.
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18 Feb 2016 22:36

Libertine Seguros wrote:
Taxus4a wrote:When this man has showed something similar to Landa in Neila?

When has he raced against that kind of calibre field? Also, hard for him to show something like that so young; he's two months older than Landa, but when Landa did that amazing ride in Burgos, Roglič hadn't taken up cycling.

This is pretty useful, though admittedly he was probably peaking for his home race, while Nieve was coming off trying to peak for the Giro. Also there's Ulissi there; Ulissi is the same age as Roglič, but like Nieve he was already on a WT team by the time Roglič took up the sport. He was at the pointy end of anything hilly to mountainous that he entered last year, but also he was racing for Adria Mobil so there weren't too many races against high quality fields or on suitably mountainous parcours. Never underestimate beating the Iranian climbers either.

He's got potential. Give him a year or two to adapt to the WT.



Well , the man is strong, I have a friend who rode againts him in Quinkia Lake last year, but to put the new Lana thread he musst show something more...There is no point to compare both riders still.
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18 Feb 2016 22:42

With Contador so badly out of form that his season is over, and Quintana no longer the best climber even in his family, this Roglic kid is clearly the main threat to Froome in July.
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18 Feb 2016 22:44

Taxus4a wrote:
Libertine Seguros wrote:
Taxus4a wrote:When this man has showed something similar to Landa in Neila?

When has he raced against that kind of calibre field? Also, hard for him to show something like that so young; he's two months older than Landa, but when Landa did that amazing ride in Burgos, Roglič hadn't taken up cycling.

This is pretty useful, though admittedly he was probably peaking for his home race, while Nieve was coming off trying to peak for the Giro. Also there's Ulissi there; Ulissi is the same age as Roglič, but like Nieve he was already on a WT team by the time Roglič took up the sport. He was at the pointy end of anything hilly to mountainous that he entered last year, but also he was racing for Adria Mobil so there weren't too many races against high quality fields or on suitably mountainous parcours. Never underestimate beating the Iranian climbers either.

He's got potential. Give him a year or two to adapt to the WT.



Well , the man is strong, I have a friend who rode againts him in Quinkia Lake last year, but to put the new Lana thread he musst show something more...There is no point to compare both riders still.

There's a smiley in the title of the thread, you know.
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18 Feb 2016 22:47

Roglic battling it out with the greats today.

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