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12 Feb 2018 02:35

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repre wrote:Will he win Vuelta this year?))


And ffs let him ride the men's RR at the Worlds.

On that route, the potential Colombian team has me salivating.
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12 Feb 2018 08:28

RedheadDane wrote:Oi! We need to get a mod to fix this blatant double-posting a few posts above!

Darn, my ambition to reach 30k first has been spotted :p
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12 Feb 2018 08:59

Valv.Piti wrote:Bernal is simply just amazing and I think he is the biggest talent since Sagan.

Exactly what I thought yesterday. Whan an amazing rider.
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12 Feb 2018 12:49

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repre wrote:Will he win Vuelta this year?))

Arredondo (the CN poster) tipped him for 3rd place in the Vuelta. While that is a bit unrealistic, I can easily see him top-10 and win a stage similarly to Superman Lopez last year. Maybe even a bit more than that. Bernal is simply just amazing and I think he is the biggest talent since Sagan.
Thinking about it tho, it becomes more and more realistic that he will have a Andy Schleck Giro 2007 type of performance in his first GT. Well if he doesn't become worn down and Froome returns.


I've tipped him for 3th because you need to gamble sometimes ;)

But still, i really think he will fight for the podium. I mean, we're talking about the biggest pure talent since Sagan like you said. If you compare him with Lopez, he's a much better TT'er and he can handle the muro's. He's one of the few riders who combines explosivity with really good climbing legs.
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Re: The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

12 Feb 2018 14:04

I started following the international cycling scene with Rujano and Parra going oldschool in Giro '05. Since then i was allways fond of Colombians and pure climbers in general, but i wasn't a dedicated fan mainly because in 2007 Contador and Andy Schleck were unleashed. After Contador retired i thought i will finally go back to Colombians and join Quintana's train but for now i think i'm joining in Bernal (mainly thanks to his recent ride in Colombia) and "Superman" Lopez (last Vuelta) hypetrains. I only hope that Sky won't destroy Bernal EA style. However, after this very imspired ride and recent clinical clouds around Froome i hope at least this year Sky will start working on their PR and be a bit less vampiric. Of course that's only my own opinion.
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Re: The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

12 Feb 2018 18:35

Colombian hype trains over the last years.
2013: Nairo is the new Pantani :cool:
2016: Forget Quintana, lopez is twice as talented :eek:
2018: Who the hell is Lopez? Bernal is the future goat. :eek: :eek:

By this rate Colombia is producing 5 Tour de France record winners every decade :lol:
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12 Feb 2018 19:05

This is a good test to see how well Sky can develop a young rider, no matter that Bernal is prodigiously talented - I hope that Sky selectively uses Bernal with an aim of around 60 race days - Mix in a few one day races with a leadership at something like California/Suisse/Poland and only ride the Vuelta if he is fresh.
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Re: The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

12 Feb 2018 22:33

Gigs_98 wrote:Colombian hype trains over the last years.
2013: Nairo is the new Pantani :cool:
2016: Forget Quintana, lopez is twice as talented :eek:
2018: Who the hell is Lopez? Bernal is the future goat. :eek: :eek:

By this rate Colombia is producing 5 Tour de France record winners every decade :lol:


What about all the Henao hype even before Nairo? Seems like it started with him.

We have to give Ryo some credit for pretty much starting it all and predicting the future Colombian wave of talent that was coming.
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Re: The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

12 Feb 2018 22:45

Gigs_98 wrote:Colombian hype trains over the last years.
2013: Nairo is the new Pantani :cool:
2016: Forget Quintana, lopez is twice as talented :eek:
2018: Who the hell is Lopez? Bernal is the future goat. :eek:

By this rate Colombia is producing 5 Tour de France record winners every decade :lol:


I am still waiting for the messiah!
If Nairo, Lopez or Bernal cannot do it with their legs then let the Salbutamol do its work!!! :D
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12 Feb 2018 22:53

I forgot about Henao. LOL. You are right jaylew, I actually believed at the beginning that Henao was it.
Then came Nairo. But I never believed Ryo. Besides Nairo's size was a big hurdle for him to win the Tour. Then I saw how he obliterated everyone in that Pais Vasco race. Then I switched and started believing in him. At this moment still waiting. So far neither Lopez, Chaves, Betancur nor Bernal have shown something to convince me of changing again. Ok Bernal is showing huge promise. But is way too early to tell TBH.

And the Colombians in this forum are very tamed TBH. They are very grounded. The hype, believe it or not, comes from people from other countries. LOL. I don't blame them. They have been waiting from the second coming of Pantani and Contador (lately) for a long time.
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Re: The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

12 Feb 2018 23:55

Gigs_98 wrote:Colombian hype trains over the last years.
2013: Nairo is the new Pantani :cool:
2016: Forget Quintana, lopez is twice as talented :eek:
2018: Who the hell is Lopez? Bernal is the future goat. :eek: :eek:

By this rate Colombia is producing 5 Tour de France record winners every decade :lol:

It reminds me of the Everton football team in the late 90s/early 2000s. They had a string of young strikers who came through the youth team who were meant to be the next big thing - Branch, Cadamateri, Jeffers and others. Then eventually Rooney arrived.
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Re: The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

13 Feb 2018 03:21

jaylew wrote:
Gigs_98 wrote:Colombian hype trains over the last years.
2013: Nairo is the new Pantani :cool:
2016: Forget Quintana, lopez is twice as talented :eek:
2018: Who the hell is Lopez? Bernal is the future goat. :eek: :eek:

By this rate Colombia is producing 5 Tour de France record winners every decade :lol:


What about all the Henao hype even before Nairo? Seems like it started with him.

We have to give Ryo some credit for pretty much starting it all and predicting the future Colombian wave of talent that was coming.

Betancur anyone?

The Colombians are to cycling what the Brazilians are to football: sexy, except that the Brazilians win/won a lot and the Colombians not so much (it looks like a Netserk signature - sorry).

That's the Lucho spell: he was so new, and so good, we have been chasing for that rush again (now I'm sounding like Trump - except that Lucho is Hispanic).

Give me Bernal-Gaudu the next decade...please.
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13 Feb 2018 11:16

Escarabajo wrote:I forgot about Henao. LOL. You are right jaylew, I actually believed at the beginning that Henao was it.
Then came Nairo. But I never believed Ryo. Besides Nairo's size was a big hurdle for him to win the Tour. Then I saw how he obliterated everyone in that Pais Vasco race. Then I switched and started believing in him. At this moment still waiting. So far neither Lopez, Chaves, Betancur nor Bernal have shown something to convince me of changing again. Ok Bernal is showing huge promise. But is way too early to tell TBH.

And the Colombians in this forum are very tamed TBH. They are very grounded. The hype, believe it or not, comes from people from other countries. LOL. I don't blame them. They have been waiting from the second coming of Pantani and Contador (lately) for a long time.


And it's even more funnier to think that the cycling community shared the belief Fabio Duarte could be the biggest of them all. I mean, 8/9 years ago everyone talked about the big four: Uran, Henao, Betancur and Duarte (before Quintana and Chaves came to the fore).

It shows that it takes more then just pure talent to be a great cyclist. It's also about having a strong mind (which was not the case with Duarte).
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13 Feb 2018 21:23

So basically just like every country.

Let's pick one randomly.
Germany. Remember the debate whether Ciolek would be the next Cipollini or Freire? Nevermind him, Herklotz will be the first great german climber. But wait, Herklotz is irrelevant, Kämna is Ullrich reborn!

3 years from now: Bernal, that scrub? Please, it's all about [name]
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13 Feb 2018 22:00

Arredondo wrote:
Escarabajo wrote:I forgot about Henao. LOL. You are right jaylew, I actually believed at the beginning that Henao was it.
Then came Nairo. But I never believed Ryo. Besides Nairo's size was a big hurdle for him to win the Tour. Then I saw how he obliterated everyone in that Pais Vasco race. Then I switched and started believing in him. At this moment still waiting. So far neither Lopez, Chaves, Betancur nor Bernal have shown something to convince me of changing again. Ok Bernal is showing huge promise. But is way too early to tell TBH.

And the Colombians in this forum are very tamed TBH. They are very grounded. The hype, believe it or not, comes from people from other countries. LOL. I don't blame them. They have been waiting from the second coming of Pantani and Contador (lately) for a long time.


And it's even more funnier to think that the cycling community shared the belief Fabio Duarte could be the biggest of them all. I mean, 8/9 years ago everyone talked about the big four: Uran, Henao, Betancur and Duarte (before Quintana and Chaves came to the fore).

It shows that it takes more then just pure talent to be a great cyclist. It's also about having a strong mind (which was not the case with Duarte).


I created a website for the colombian generation about 7 years ago. LOL. I haven't changed it since.
Badly written, just me typing away one day without editing.
Summary:
Ardila (32), Serpa (32), Duque (31) were the veterans.
SOLER (28) was King and was going to win the next tour.
Duarte (25) was exciting to watch.
Rigoberto Uran (24), Sergio Henao (23), Cayenato Sarmiento (24) and Winner Anacona (23) were all coming up.
Some guy called Carlos Betancourt (22) and another guy Nairo Quintana (21) were the ones you may not have heard of.
I did have some crazy predictions of those to watch:
Miguel Rubiano (27)
Rafael Infantino (27)
Esteban Chavez (21)
Edwin Avila (21) if he ever left the track
Giovani Baez (30)
Janier Acevedo (24)
And more importantly was this cute 20 year old girl Mariana Pajon that MAY, just MAY win an olympic medal.

Keep in mind that I did this in about 20 minutes and never went back to edit:
http://www.ospina.com
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13 Feb 2018 22:51

gospina wrote:
Arredondo wrote:
Escarabajo wrote:I forgot about Henao. LOL. You are right jaylew, I actually believed at the beginning that Henao was it.
Then came Nairo. But I never believed Ryo. Besides Nairo's size was a big hurdle for him to win the Tour. Then I saw how he obliterated everyone in that Pais Vasco race. Then I switched and started believing in him. At this moment still waiting. So far neither Lopez, Chaves, Betancur nor Bernal have shown something to convince me of changing again. Ok Bernal is showing huge promise. But is way too early to tell TBH.

And the Colombians in this forum are very tamed TBH. They are very grounded. The hype, believe it or not, comes from people from other countries. LOL. I don't blame them. They have been waiting from the second coming of Pantani and Contador (lately) for a long time.


And it's even more funnier to think that the cycling community shared the belief Fabio Duarte could be the biggest of them all. I mean, 8/9 years ago everyone talked about the big four: Uran, Henao, Betancur and Duarte (before Quintana and Chaves came to the fore).

It shows that it takes more then just pure talent to be a great cyclist. It's also about having a strong mind (which was not the case with Duarte).


I created a website for the colombian generation about 7 years ago. LOL. I haven't changed it since.
Badly written, just me typing away one day without editing.
Summary:
Ardila (32), Serpa (32), Duque (31) were the veterans.
SOLER (28) was King and was going to win the next tour.
Duarte (25) was exciting to watch.
Rigoberto Uran (24), Sergio Henao (23), Cayenato Sarmiento (24) and Winner Anacona (23) were all coming up.
Some guy called Carlos Betancourt (22) and another guy Nairo Quintana (21) were the ones you may not have heard of.
I did have some crazy predictions of those to watch:
Miguel Rubiano (27)
Rafael Infantino (27)
Esteban Chavez (21)
Edwin Avila (21) if he ever left the track
Giovani Baez (30)
Janier Acevedo (24)
And more importantly was this cute 20 year old girl Mariana Pajon that MAY, just MAY win an olympic medal.

Keep in mind that I did this in about 20 minutes and never went back to edit:
http://www.ospina.com

What's the deal with the Betancur/Betancourt thing, anyway? I've never known.
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14 Feb 2018 13:58

jaylew wrote:What's the deal with the Betancur/Betancourt thing, anyway? I've never known.

The last name exists in both forms in Colombia, French influence.
When Carlos was coming up, some reports had him as Betancourt in race results. At that time, i had assumed it was that, since there is a famous colombian politician with the same last name (Ingrid Betancourt, who was kidnapped for a few years at one point). I find it more fascinating his nicknames. Some people call him Bananito, but he prefers "La Ronca". La Ronca was a famous colombian singer named Helenita Vargas. Her nickname as "La Ronca". It means "hoarse voice", and "roncando" means snoring. She was famous for her raspy voice. Anyway, people were making fun of Betancur's voice when he was younger and he actually liked the nickname, so he prefers it LOL. Too much of a tangent, back to Egan Bernal, his current nickname is "The Eagle from Zipaquira" (El Aguila de Zipaquira). Eagle seems like a cool nickname. Fits him.
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14 Feb 2018 14:12

Me quedo en Colombia hasta una semana antes de la Volta a Catalunya y depués correré Flecha y Lieja. Es un buen bloque y regreso a Colombia. Tal vez luego haga California. Tengo todo el calendario... pero no me acuerdo.


So, this should be the latest info regarding his race schedule?
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22 Mar 2018 19:55

Egan looked extremely impressive today holding his own against Valverde and Quintana. This and Il Lombardia last year are the highlights of his young career so far IMO.
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Re: The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

22 Mar 2018 22:50

jaylew wrote:
Gigs_98 wrote:Colombian hype trains over the last years.
2013: Nairo is the new Pantani :cool:
2016: Forget Quintana, lopez is twice as talented :eek:
2018: Who the hell is Lopez? Bernal is the future goat. :eek: :eek:

By this rate Colombia is producing 5 Tour de France record winners every decade :lol:


What about all the Henao hype even before Nairo? Seems like it started with him.

We have to give Ryo some credit for pretty much starting it all and predicting the future Colombian wave of talent that was coming.

As crazy as Ryo was, I knew he was always right about the Colombian wave of talent (except the overdoing it part), they are all crazy good. Even the sprinters now.
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