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Viviani

07 Mar 2016 13:42

Viviani attitude in 2016 has been quite odd. First against Jakub Mareczko. Now against Cav and Gaviria.
it’s not the way a world champion should race. He raced only on my wheel

for Gaviria's tactics. This from a sprinter who wheels sucks upto the last 200m. :rolleyes:
we decided before the points race that we would only race for the jersey

why not question ur own tactics???? :confused:
We lost it when Cav did the sprint

Cav simply wants Olympic selection in omnium and why will he not sprint to show he is better. :p

Rather strange behavior from one who wants to win
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07 Mar 2016 14:21

Never really been a fan of Viviani, and I must say that his behaviour in 2016 doesn't do him any favors. That said, he has improved a lot as a road cyclist the last few years, and now I would put him among the best of the rest (Kittel is in a league of his own, and then we have Kristoff, Cavendish and Greipel in the second tier) together with Degenkolb, Sagan and Bouhanni.
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07 Mar 2016 14:27

I don't think he has made significant improvements in the past few years. And he's getting more and more unlikeable. Not a fan.
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07 Mar 2016 14:50

This...

I think he’s really lucky to win again this year because if Cav didn’t do the last sprint then Gaviria would have lost the title. I had really bad luck. For sure my consideration of Cav changed after yesterday. I don’t know why he did that. Maybe he spoke with Gaviria, I don’t know, but sure my consideration of Cav completely changed. He absolutely saw me in the sprint and he did the sprint for the line. He was 20 points from fifth place and many points from seventh place. I don’t understand that.


...wouldn't have been a problem if Viviani had just applied himself to the race and sprinted more than a token couple of times and then after it was too late. It's also odd how he tweeted something along these lines, then posted photos of the British madison win, praising it/them. I guess someone at Sky, since their logo is still all over Team GB stuff, read him the riot act.
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07 Mar 2016 14:55

If he really wanted to race for the jersey he did a ****** job. Like seriously. Almost never competing in a sprintlap, letting everyone else take a lap and still get beaten in the last sprint? Gaviria also did not his very best performance but he at least took some sprints.
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07 Mar 2016 18:01

Yes, he's hopeless. I was so happy that he finished 4th :-)
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07 Mar 2016 18:41

so... he's mad because cavendish decided to contest the final sprint of a world championship that was held in cavendish's own country?! ok...
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07 Mar 2016 18:49

His attitude before the event did not bode well. Of Cav he said, "His presence will take the pressure and attention off me." Well something went wrong with that! Ridiculous to expect Cav not to sprint.
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07 Mar 2016 19:09

Basically he blew it, he cant blame others for that, sitting of the back of the bunch with Gavira.
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09 Mar 2016 15:10

Agreed. He's quite a sore loser, and should really change his tactics, both on road and on track. When sprinting during road stages, he's often bad positioned, losing wheels and such. And we've seen at the track worlds the way he raced, absolutely zero tactical acumen.

That aside, the guy is definitely among the best sprinters nowadays, really really fast. Should grow up mentally a notch.
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09 Mar 2016 16:11

Pippo_San wrote:Agreed. He's quite a sore loser, and should really change his tactics, both on road and on track. When sprinting during road stages, he's often bad positioned, losing wheels and such. And we've seen at the track worlds the way he raced, absolutely zero tactical acumen.

That aside, the guy is definitely among the best sprinters nowadays, really really fast. Should grow up mentally a notch.


A few conversations with Steve Peter's might be in order.
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21 Mar 2018 17:04

De Panne a good win for him! When he moved to Q-S, I figured that he wouldn't get many chances, but he has carved his spot in the team.
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21 Mar 2018 20:13

I think that viviani won't never become the most dominant sprinter but considering that he has done a lot of track until 2016 he's a very good rider. More versatile than many pure sprinters. Lefevere said that viviani can win more than kittel last year, people were laughing at him but he 's already at the sixth victory.
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21 Mar 2018 20:41

Quite the turnaround compared to just a couple years ago.

The Olympic title really did wonders for him.
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21 Mar 2018 20:48

EroicaStradeBianche wrote:I think that viviani won't never become the most dominant sprinter but considering that he has done a lot of track until 2016 he's a very good rider. More versatile than many pure sprinters. Lefevere said that viviani can win more than kittel last year, people were laughing at him but he 's already at the sixth victory.


So, you're saying he will? ;)
Aka The Ginger One.
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21 Mar 2018 20:52

jmdirt wrote:De Panne a good win for him! When he moved to Q-S, I figured that he wouldn't get many chances, but he has carved his spot in the team.

Really? When I saw his program I pretty much declared him victory champion of 2018. Knowing how weak the field is in both the Giro and Vuelta, he could literally win a free stage or 10. Barring crashes and such of course. He has the ideal setup and team.
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22 Mar 2018 08:37

Even if he'll win 15 stages in the fall Mareczko will go to China and will surpass everyone :D
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22 Mar 2018 10:49

DNP-Old wrote:
jmdirt wrote:De Panne a good win for him! When he moved to Q-S, I figured that he wouldn't get many chances, but he has carved his spot in the team.

Really? When I saw his program I pretty much declared him victory champion of 2018. Knowing how weak the field is in both the Giro and Vuelta, he could literally win a free stage or 10. Barring crashes and such of course. He has the ideal setup and team.

Yeah. Coquard must feel stupid now that he didn't take that schedule, because he desperately wanted to do the Tour.

Since Greipel is taken out by injury and Guardini isn't winning sprints in Langkawi atm, there's not much competition for Viviani at the Giro. Van Poppel shouldn't really step up his game this year and Mareczko is in stagnation. Ewan though might still become the better sprinter, based on his M-SM performance. But he won't have a full train.
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27 Mar 2018 17:11

He has won a fan in me last sunday.
That was heartbreaking.
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28 Mar 2018 19:51

Breh wrote:He has won a fan in me last sunday.
That was heartbreaking.

I agree! If he won you as a fan there, you might like this one as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CqXIMjgvYw
Watch from 1:30 in the upper left corner. I found it very imressive at the time, very pure emotional moment :D
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