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28 Jun 2018 13:43

Dani Martinez!!

Though I think Uran will lose SHITLOADS in the TTT.
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28 Jun 2018 13:50

According to Vaughters he has three big engines for the TTT.

https://www.efprocycling.com/ef-education-first-drapac-cannondale-for-2018-tour-de-france/
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28 Jun 2018 15:01

Scully, Vanmarcke, Uran and Phinney will be the main engines I imagine so who will hang on? Clarke?
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28 Jun 2018 16:47

Wow, I've got 7 out of 8 riders right this time! My best "result" ever. Scully is the only surprise. Man, I would've never suspected he would be selected for 2 GTs in row. I guess Langeveld has not recovered from his PR crash, otherwise he would be in. Scully seems to have become one of Vaughters' favourite riders.

GenericBoonenFan wrote:Scully, Vanmarcke, Uran and Phinney will be the main engines I imagine so who will hang on? Clarke?

Craddock has been one of their best TT riders this season. In fact, clearly better than Phinney in terms of individual TT results.

This roster is as strong TT-wise as you could expect from this team. Rolland is the only below average TT rider in here (well, apart from Uran on most occasions in recent years :P ). Scully's TTs results have been really solid recently. Craddock has been good in TTs this season. Martinez narrowly missed national TT title in Colombia and showed a good TT in California. Clarke rode many good TTTs with Orica, including a TdF stage win. Of course they are not finishing top3 in the TTT and Uran will still lose significant time to some of the contenders there but with a different selection and some health problems it could be much worse.

The squad seems to be a solid compromise with decent support for Uran in all posible terrains. Phinney and Vanmarcke for cobbles and flat stages, Rolland and Martinez for mountains, Clarke for hilly stages, and for TTT, as I wrote, they're not one fhe top teams but they couldn't line-up a better team for limiting losses.
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28 Jun 2018 23:11

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Dani Martinez!!

Though I think Uran will lose SHITLOADS in the TTT.

Scully, Vanmarcke, Phinney and Craddock can all do a good job pulling for Uran. I’m tipping them to be around 4th - 6th in the TTT.
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29 Jun 2018 02:47

That's a surprisingly good team.
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29 Jun 2018 08:13

42x16ss wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Dani Martinez!!

Though I think Uran will lose SHITLOADS in the TTT.

Scully, Vanmarcke, Phinney and Craddock can all do a good job pulling for Uran. I’m tipping them to be around 4th - 6th in the TTT.

That's a bit ambitious. I think somewhere around 8th would already be a success, given their recent record in TTTs and lack of truly top TT-men in their team (Phinney is no longer the rider he used to be). And I honestly think something like 12th is perhaps more likely than 4th. There are way more than 3 teams out there with much bigger focus on TTs in general. Something that Bettiol and Bevin highlighted after moving from Cannondale to BMC.
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29 Jun 2018 08:20

4th would be a HUGE surprise. If we are taking teams thats definitely better: BMC, Sky, QS, MS, Movistar, Sunweb. I'd say Bahrain and Ag2R also definitely are better teams, at least they should be...

But nice team, tbh I have never heard of Scully. Dani Martinez is a nice addition, he has been going well, but Im afraid JV is overrating him a fair amount. He is at best Michael Matthews to Bernal's Sagan at the moment.
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29 Jun 2018 11:35

42x16ss wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Dani Martinez!!

Though I think Uran will lose SHITLOADS in the TTT.

Scully, Vanmarcke, Phinney and Craddock can all do a good job pulling for Uran. I’m tipping them to be around 4th - 6th in the TTT.


That's a pretty solid group for the TTT but others definitely look better. Wouldn't put it in the top five.
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29 Jun 2018 15:26

Let's move away from what 'place' they might get because that doesn't really mean anything. If they get 18th but only lose 40 second, that's better than getting 10th and losing a minute (to the main GC rivals). It sounds like its a technical course with a steep climb at about the halfway point so is that enough to tighten the time gaps?
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29 Jun 2018 17:52

At 40s they’ll be a lot higher placed than 18th, but yes, the time gap is the main thing. They’re unlikely to challenge for the stage win, but limiting the losses for Uran is the key for the first 10 days, and the squad picked looks surprisingly capable of that.
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29 Jun 2018 23:21

Uran a main engine for the TTT? You better hope it's a quadjet, better chances of reaching the finish when two engines inevitably fail
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29 Jun 2018 23:30

It’s a good team. The selection looks like some serious thought was put into maximizing their capacity to help Uran with their limited resources. I fear though that all but two or three teams will be in a huge hole after the TTT and I am dubious about EF’s ability to avoid that hole. They just don’t have enough TTT horsepower in their team to pick from.
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29 Jun 2018 23:33

Zinoviev Letter wrote:It’s a good team. The selection looks like some serious thought was put into maximizing their capacity to help Uran with their limited resources. I fear though that all but two or three teams will be in a huge hole after the TTT and I am dubious about EF’s ability to avoid that hole. They just don’t have enough TTT horsepower in their team to pick from.


Then Duran Duran will attack on every mountain to make up the time lost in the TTT.
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30 Jun 2018 02:04

Rollthedice wrote:
Zinoviev Letter wrote:It’s a good team. The selection looks like some serious thought was put into maximizing their capacity to help Uran with their limited resources. I fear though that all but two or three teams will be in a huge hole after the TTT and I am dubious about EF’s ability to avoid that hole. They just don’t have enough TTT horsepower in their team to pick from.


Then Duran Duran will attack on every mountain to make up the time lost in the TTT.

:lol:

No he won’t. He’ll defend 6th place with his life. He’s not Bertie.
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30 Jun 2018 17:41

Leinster wrote:
Rollthedice wrote:
Zinoviev Letter wrote:It’s a good team. The selection looks like some serious thought was put into maximizing their capacity to help Uran with their limited resources. I fear though that all but two or three teams will be in a huge hole after the TTT and I am dubious about EF’s ability to avoid that hole. They just don’t have enough TTT horsepower in their team to pick from.


Then Duran Duran will attack on every mountain to make up the time lost in the TTT.

:lol:

No he won’t. He’ll defend 6th place with his life. He’s not Bertie.

Not that I think he'll constantly attack but I don't think 6th means a whole lot to a guy like Uran who's got 3 runner up GT placings.
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30 Jun 2018 19:07

6th place means nothing to Uran. With this hard route just by being consistent during the 3 weeks can net him the podium again. Winning is out of the question IMHO.
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30 Jun 2018 19:43

Leinster wrote:
Rollthedice wrote:
Zinoviev Letter wrote:It’s a good team. The selection looks like some serious thought was put into maximizing their capacity to help Uran with their limited resources. I fear though that all but two or three teams will be in a huge hole after the TTT and I am dubious about EF’s ability to avoid that hole. They just don’t have enough TTT horsepower in their team to pick from.


Then Duran Duran will attack on every mountain to make up the time lost in the TTT.

:lol:

No he won’t. He’ll defend 6th place with his life. He’s not Bertie.

Second or third maybe, but not an anonymous top 10. He wants a GT win.
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09 Jul 2018 15:40

jmdirt wrote:Let's move away from what 'place' they might get because that doesn't really mean anything. If they get 18th but only lose 40 second, that's better than getting 10th and losing a minute (to the main GC rivals). It sounds like its a technical course with a steep climb at about the halfway point so is that enough to tighten the time gaps?

I'm going to buy a lottery ticket today! :lol:
That's a good result for the team and RU!
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09 Jul 2018 15:44

jmdirt wrote:
jmdirt wrote:Let's move away from what 'place' they might get because that doesn't really mean anything. If they get 18th but only lose 40 second, that's better than getting 10th and losing a minute (to the main GC rivals). It sounds like its a technical course with a steep climb at about the halfway point so is that enough to tighten the time gaps?

I'm going to buy a lottery ticket today! :lol:
That's a good result for the team and RU!

Thought about this post when I saw the times. It’s a great result for EF, and puts Uran 2nd behind Dumoulin of the “serious contenders.”
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