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09 Sep 2017 22:07

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Nirvana wrote:
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Nirvana wrote:Moscon 13th today in the hardest MTF of the race.
Are you still convinced that he's not suddenly turned in a climber?

When has he not been a good climber?

Before this summer he has never showed climbing skills in the mountains.
He was considered one of brightest young prospect but as rouleur/time trialist with punchy skills for hilly races, anyone could have thought of him as a climber.

Certainly those watching him in the Tour de l'Avenir could easily imagine him as a pretty decent climber.


Just decent climbers don't finish 13th on the Angliru unless given latitude from being in a break that was let go.
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10 Sep 2017 07:23

The King in the North sits at the head of the table
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13 Sep 2017 11:30

Strong TTT team, Froome, Thomas, Doull, Moscon, Kwiat, Kiri. Should be one of the top 3 favourites.
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16 Sep 2017 12:33

why they didn't go for the team gc in la vuelta they could have won it easly Froome , was doing great even without a strong team , unlike to the tour, there Froome could have lost without team see stage 13
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16 Sep 2017 12:40

Because no one cares about the Team Classification unless you happen to be in it by the end of the race by accident.
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16 Sep 2017 12:45

NO ONE CARES i don't get it winning back to back team classification was done few times i don't know maybe never so if happened it will put team sky in the legend of cycling , that's for stats of course
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16 Sep 2017 13:08

Nobody cares about the Team Classification unless:

- They have nobody positioned to contest the individual classifications but several good riders with little else to target
- They find themselves up near the top of the classification in the second half of the race thanks to stagehunting and want to protect this
- They are Eusebio Unzué.
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16 Sep 2017 13:10

Libertine Seguros wrote:Nobody cares about the Team Classification unless:

- They have nobody positioned to contest the individual classifications but several good riders with little else to target
- They find themselves up near the top of the classification in the second half of the race thanks to stagehunting and want to protect this
- They are Eusebio Unzué.

Maybe sponsors like it, to be able to say: "Sponsor X: best team in Grand Tour Y 2017!"
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18 Sep 2017 20:30

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm looking forward to seeing Van Baarle shredding the field on Alpe d'Heuz next year.
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18 Sep 2017 22:48

deValtos wrote:I don't know about the rest of you but I'm looking forward to seeing Van Baarle shredding the field on Alpe d'Heuz next year.


How is that any different from some other unlikely Sky rider climbing like the second coming of Bahamontes, dropping gc contenders? Nah, I ain't looking forward to that.
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29 Sep 2017 06:54

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-sky-report-budget-of-31-million-in-2016/
The accounts note that Sky's average number of full-time employees in 2016 was 33 (up from 29 in 2015), though it is understood that many of its riders are paid as contractors rather than as full-time employees.


Easier to fire if needs be? :confused:
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29 Sep 2017 08:17

Robert5091 wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-sky-report-budget-of-31-million-in-2016/
The accounts note that Sky's average number of full-time employees in 2016 was 33 (up from 29 in 2015), though it is understood that many of its riders are paid as contractors rather than as full-time employees.


Easier to fire if needs be? :confused:


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29 Sep 2017 08:34

Pharazon wrote:
Robert5091 wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-sky-report-budget-of-31-million-in-2016/
The accounts note that Sky's average number of full-time employees in 2016 was 33 (up from 29 in 2015), though it is understood that many of its riders are paid as contractors rather than as full-time employees.


Easier to fire if needs be? :confused:


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Doesn't it mean they are pretty much self employed?
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29 Sep 2017 08:42

deValtos wrote:I don't know about the rest of you but I'm looking forward to seeing Van Baarle shredding the field on Alpe d'Heuz next year.

Given the fact he showed slight climbing potential in his u23 period in races like thuringer rundfahrt, with the sky transformation he is sure to drop at least 95% of the pack :lol:
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29 Sep 2017 11:38

Top10 on Zoncolan next year!
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29 Sep 2017 15:06

rick james wrote:
Pharazon wrote:
Robert5091 wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-sky-report-budget-of-31-million-in-2016/
The accounts note that Sky's average number of full-time employees in 2016 was 33 (up from 29 in 2015), though it is understood that many of its riders are paid as contractors rather than as full-time employees.


Easier to fire if needs be? :confused:


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Doesn't it mean they are pretty much self employed?


Yes, fake self-employment is a way to get around tax obligations and a way to avoid having to give employees certain rights. In almost all circumstances it's about employers screwing over their workers, but in the case of a big money sports team and its playing (riding) staff it's likely to be mostly about screwing the state out of tax.
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Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

29 Sep 2017 16:52

I noticed that Rayanne Bouhanni is still not signed with Cofidis. Perhaps we will hear an announcement of his signing with Cofidis. If that is not in the cards for him, would he be a good addition for Sky? He young rider from France. From what I have been reading on various boards Sir David Brailsford is looking for a good French rider. Would he be a good fit? If anyone is familiar with him what are his strong points as a rider?
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29 Sep 2017 17:31

The younger brother of Bouhanni? Same ****** attitude, but one third of the talent? Haha right, he's such a good fit for Sky.
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29 Sep 2017 17:46

hazaran wrote:The younger brother of Bouhanni? Same ****** attitude, but one third of the talent? Haha right, he's such a good fit for Sky.


I am not very familiar with either of the brothers which is why I was asking. What attitude are you speaking of? Are they head cases and have trouble with taking orders? Do they think themselves bigger than the team?
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