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08 Jul 2016 08:16

Groenewegen hardly setting the race on fire in his Tour de France debut.
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08 Jul 2016 08:34

CheckMyPecs wrote:Groenewegen hardly putting the race on fire in his Tour de France debut.

His train is a trainwreck. His sprints are actually pretty decent. Tour de France is a hard race to make your WT debute. I don't think he's ever done any decent climbing before, he'll likely drop out in the Pyrenees.
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08 Jul 2016 09:55

I would say 3 top tens with one 4th place is decent for him. I didn't expect him to be beating Cavendish and Kittel, even more so considering he fell ill just before the Tour and that his team is far from excelling in terms of lead-out.

Red Rick wrote:Tour de France is a hard race to make your WT debute.

He rode Gent-Wevelgem, Flanders and Eneco Tour last year.
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08 Jul 2016 10:01

As long as he's better than Max van Heeswijk...
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09 Jul 2016 18:07

Can Kelderman stay upright?!
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09 Jul 2016 18:10

SoigneurNL wrote:Can Kelderman stay upright?!


Well, it would help if the team didn't decide to send him out on a bike that had apparently been assembled using paperclips and old bits of chewing gum.
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09 Jul 2016 19:15

Zinoviev Letter wrote:
SoigneurNL wrote:Can Kelderman stay upright?!


Well, it would help if the team didn't decide to send him out on a bike that had apparently been assembled using paperclips and old bits of chewing gum.


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09 Jul 2016 20:01

Zinoviev Letter wrote:
SoigneurNL wrote:Can Kelderman stay upright?!


Well, it would help if the team didn't decide to send him out on a bike that had apparently been assembled using paperclips and old bits of chewing gum.

Really sucks.. now we'll never find out if Kelderman was any good at GC for the Tour. He'll obviously be gone from now on.

Seemed both physically and mentally broken after the finish.
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09 Jul 2016 22:08

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
Zinoviev Letter wrote:
SoigneurNL wrote:Can Kelderman stay upright?!


Well, it would help if the team didn't decide to send him out on a bike that had apparently been assembled using paperclips and old bits of chewing gum.

Really sucks.. now we'll never find out if Kelderman was any good at GC for the Tour. He'll obviously be gone from now on.

Seemed both physically and mentally broken after the finish.

This is going to be another good test of character for him. He needs to call Kruiswijk and ask about his Giro last year. First week of the Tour is almost over, there's still much to be won.
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12 Jul 2016 20:39

I know there were issues with the old Rabo buses, but I'd have thought the team would've been better off than this by now. Looks like something they bought secondhand off Laurens ten Dam when he moved to California.

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21 Aug 2016 07:47

How does Kruijswijk fare on punchy climbs?
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CheckMyPecs wrote:How does Kruijswijk fare on punchy climbs?


I expect not too great :) specially since they come in the first week and I don't think he will be as sharp as the first week of the Giro this year.
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CheckMyPecs wrote:How does Kruijswijk fare on punchy climbs?


I expect not too great :) specially since they come in the first week and I don't think he will be as sharp as the first week of the Giro this year.


Not to mention he prefers cold weather to hot by quite a distance. Don't think he's got much chance in this Vuelta

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21 Aug 2016 10:53

Plus he is not exactly a star on flat stages with a MTF at the end.
Vuelta has a ton of them.

I really don't see the point. But ok, maybe for the experience or smh
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Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Plus he is not exactly a star on flat stages with a MTF at the end.
Vuelta has a ton of them.

I really don't see the point. But ok, maybe for the experience or smh


What should he ride otherwise tho? There really isn't much for rider types like him apart from GT's and even if he doesn't do well, I think its preferable for a guy like him to have done 2 GTs on a year. Heard a lot of people basically using the Vuelta as 'training' for the upcoming season.
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21 Aug 2016 11:00

Or laying the foundations for a shot at Lombardia.
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21 Aug 2016 11:14

Yeah and if he loses time so what? He could be a very dangerous stage-hunter
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22 Aug 2016 16:07

Point proven.. 53th today.

That's even worse than I expected (thought around 25th place 1'00 down or something). Looks like that illness after Rio did even make him worse. So.. what's next.
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22 Aug 2016 16:11

Maybe he can ride himself into shape and win the stage to Lagos de Covadonga and / or the polka dot jersey! :) :(
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23 Aug 2016 11:34

He lost a whole 2:02!
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