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18 May 2018 23:03

Not road I know, be I think it's still relevant to his thread...

Broken scaphoid? Well, that's nothing for Van der Poel, who wins his first MTB World Cup race with the Albstadt short track, holding off Sam Gaze and Mathias Flueckiger in a very impressive fashion, according to reports (unfortunately, no TV coverage).
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19 May 2018 09:50

Was wondering what will that new format/race added to 2018 season... also looks like the race is mandatory? for the XCO riders and the startline seeding for the XCO race will be based on the XCC (xc short-track) results?

https://inthebunch.co.za/2018/02/short-track-xcc-format-officially-added-to-uci-mtb-world-cup/

EDIT: recap:
https://www.redbull.tv/video/AP-1VH4GRT591W11/race-recap-xcc-albstadt?playlist=AP-1SV3K1FJW2111:extras
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29 May 2018 17:06

Fell hard on his wrist again, cant MTB for 2 weeks but will defend his title on the road in Boucles de la Mayenne in 2 days and after that will ride the Dutch national road championships.

No idea if he has any other plans on the road this season.
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29 May 2018 19:33

Will be interesting to see in the Dutch champs. Although that one will probably end in a mass sprint won by Groenewegen or Jakobsen
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30 May 2018 09:23

classicomano wrote:Fell hard on his wrist again, cant MTB for 2 weeks but will defend his title on the road in Boucles de la Mayenne in 2 days and after that will ride the Dutch national road championships.

No idea if he has any other plans on the road this season.


I don't think so. He also said this year his only goal in Boucles de la Mayenne is to work on his form.
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30 May 2018 09:54

Der Effe wrote:
classicomano wrote:Fell hard on his wrist again, cant MTB for 2 weeks but will defend his title on the road in Boucles de la Mayenne in 2 days and after that will ride the Dutch national road championships.

No idea if he has any other plans on the road this season.


I don't think so. He also said this year his only goal in Boucles de la Mayenne is to work on his form.

He should get his wrist in order imho. Hope he/docs know what they're doing though.
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30 May 2018 20:22

classicomano wrote:Fell hard on his wrist again, cant MTB for 2 weeks but will defend his title on the road in Boucles de la Mayenne in 2 days and after that will ride the Dutch national road championships.

No idea if he has any other plans on the road this season.

Dwars door het Hageland (15-06)
Elfstedenronde (17-06)
Halle-Ingooigem (19-06)
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30 May 2018 20:48

DNP-Old wrote:
classicomano wrote:Fell hard on his wrist again, cant MTB for 2 weeks but will defend his title on the road in Boucles de la Mayenne in 2 days and after that will ride the Dutch national road championships.

No idea if he has any other plans on the road this season.

Dwars door het Hageland (15-06)
Elfstedenronde (17-06)
Halle-Ingooigem (19-06)

Oh thats more than I expected. Thanks.
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31 May 2018 19:16

He came in 2nd in the Boucles prologue. Not bad for just warming the legs.
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31 May 2018 23:27

It's hardly a surprise Mathieu doesn't need top form in such a field but I would've expected his injury to have more of an impact.
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01 Jun 2018 15:21

Early reports indicate he has won today's stage, no timings yet but it was a sprint
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01 Jun 2018 15:23

Easy win.

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But to be fair, looking at the top 10, he barely has any competition here.
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01 Jun 2018 15:45

Sarreau isn't that bad tho
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01 Jun 2018 15:49

Not bad for a MTB-er....
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01 Jun 2018 17:38

Max Kanter is a good prospect. No surprise if next year is at WT with Sunweb. Touze is also a good young sprinter.
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01 Jun 2018 18:23

A 23 year old CX/MTB rider, who isn't necessarily a sprinter based on his results on the road so far, beating some okayish French (pro)conti sprinters and sprint talents in the sprint, while struggling with a wrist injury, and in the middle of his MTB season, is still pretty decent if you ask me, even if the field in and of itself is a bit underwhelming.
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01 Jun 2018 18:28

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Sarreau isn't that bad tho

Many of these French C-sprinters are actually quite fast. Nice win for Mathieu.
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02 Jun 2018 09:20

Mathieu posted his prologue Watts on instagram stories. I expected it to be a little bit higher. But I am definitely no expert. I googled his weight and found 75 kg. Data from instagram:

5" 1301 W
10" 1111 W
12" 1077 W
20" 937 W
30" 895 W
1' 750 W
2' 618 W
5' 545 W
6' 523 W
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02 Jun 2018 10:36

Winnen wrote:Mathieu posted his prologue Watts on instagram stories. I expected it to be a little bit higher. But I am definitely no expert. I googled his weight and found 75 kg. Data from instagram:

5" 1301 W
10" 1111 W
12" 1077 W
20" 937 W
30" 895 W
1' 750 W
2' 618 W
5' 545 W
6' 523 W


5' power which is often used as a surrogate for VO2max capabilities here comes out to 7.25 w/kg. that's right in line with the recorded values of thibaut pinot from his 2010-2013 period as referenced here: http://www.fredericgrappe.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pinot-ppr.pdf

In my opinion that's right in line with his top talent status. From this it looks like he definitely has the engine to make it big on the road as well.
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02 Jun 2018 10:45

Also, the prologue had quite a few corners where he would be slowing down and freewheeling. And even though his wattages accelerating out of them are higher, I reckon his average watts output goes down.
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