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05 Oct 2018 20:41

Sad that the most succesful team in cycling can't afford to keep a rider they have helped grow. These numbers are peanuts in so many other sports. Any 2nd devision football team in an average European league has players that cost more than that.
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06 Oct 2018 06:23

Red Rick wrote:Mas probably went from being worth a 200-300k contract to over a million, so it's kinda easy to see why QS wouldn't have the money


He extended last year, after his rookie campaign. I doubt he signed for much of an upgrade compared to the first deal. What did he achieve in that neo pro season? 2nd Overall at Burgos and 3rd at one Vuelta stage. So it really shouldnt matter what Mas would be would be worth now, since he signed that contract last year already. As basically a talented nobody. IF Quickstep has to let riders go because of money problems, Jungels, Stybar, Gilbert or Alaphilippe should save much more money than the contract Enric Mas signed in late 2017. Heck, I bet even Sabatini, Richeze and Lampaert get more money!
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06 Oct 2018 07:04

Akuryo wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Mas probably went from being worth a 200-300k contract to over a million, so it's kinda easy to see why QS wouldn't have the money


He extended last year, after his rookie campaign. I doubt he signed for much of an upgrade compared to the first deal. What did he achieve in that neo pro season? 2nd Overall at Burgos and 3rd at one Vuelta stage. So it really shouldnt matter what Mas would be would be worth now, since he signed that contract last year already. As basically a talented nobody. IF Quickstep has to let riders go because of money problems, Jungels, Stybar, Gilbert or Alaphilippe should save much more money than the contract Enric Mas signed in late 2017. Heck, I bet even Sabatini, Richeze and Lampaert get more money!

2nd in the Vuelta pushes up the value of a rider to a team significantly
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06 Oct 2018 07:13

Tim Booth wrote:
Akuryo wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Mas probably went from being worth a 200-300k contract to over a million, so it's kinda easy to see why QS wouldn't have the money


He extended last year, after his rookie campaign. I doubt he signed for much of an upgrade compared to the first deal. What did he achieve in that neo pro season? 2nd Overall at Burgos and 3rd at one Vuelta stage. So it really shouldnt matter what Mas would be would be worth now, since he signed that contract last year already. As basically a talented nobody. IF Quickstep has to let riders go because of money problems, Jungels, Stybar, Gilbert or Alaphilippe should save much more money than the contract Enric Mas signed in late 2017. Heck, I bet even Sabatini, Richeze and Lampaert get more money!

2nd in the Vuelta pushes up the value of a rider to a team significantly


I did not question that. All I said was that he is under contract from a time where he wasnt second at the Vuelta! And we dont know if his salary had a clause that would skyrocket if certain results would appear.
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06 Oct 2018 07:30

Akuryo wrote:
Tim Booth wrote:
Akuryo wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Mas probably went from being worth a 200-300k contract to over a million, so it's kinda easy to see why QS wouldn't have the money


He extended last year, after his rookie campaign. I doubt he signed for much of an upgrade compared to the first deal. What did he achieve in that neo pro season? 2nd Overall at Burgos and 3rd at one Vuelta stage. So it really shouldnt matter what Mas would be would be worth now, since he signed that contract last year already. As basically a talented nobody. IF Quickstep has to let riders go because of money problems, Jungels, Stybar, Gilbert or Alaphilippe should save much more money than the contract Enric Mas signed in late 2017. Heck, I bet even Sabatini, Richeze and Lampaert get more money!

2nd in the Vuelta pushes up the value of a rider to a team significantly


I did not question that. All I said was that he is under contract from a time where he wasnt second at the Vuelta! And we dont know if his salary had a clause that would skyrocket if certain results would appear.

no, but the chances are that a team with money will make QS an offer they can't refuse.
Look at what Team Sky paid Garmin for Bradley when he broke his contract with them...
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06 Oct 2018 07:37

Tim Booth wrote:
Akuryo wrote:
Tim Booth wrote:
Akuryo wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Mas probably went from being worth a 200-300k contract to over a million, so it's kinda easy to see why QS wouldn't have the money


He extended last year, after his rookie campaign. I doubt he signed for much of an upgrade compared to the first deal. What did he achieve in that neo pro season? 2nd Overall at Burgos and 3rd at one Vuelta stage. So it really shouldnt matter what Mas would be would be worth now, since he signed that contract last year already. As basically a talented nobody. IF Quickstep has to let riders go because of money problems, Jungels, Stybar, Gilbert or Alaphilippe should save much more money than the contract Enric Mas signed in late 2017. Heck, I bet even Sabatini, Richeze and Lampaert get more money!

2nd in the Vuelta pushes up the value of a rider to a team significantly


I did not question that. All I said was that he is under contract from a time where he wasnt second at the Vuelta! And we dont know if his salary had a clause that would skyrocket if certain results would appear.

no, but the chances are that a team with money will make QS an offer they can't refuse.
Look at what Team Sky paid Garmin for Bradley when he broke his contract with them...


Okay, that could be a possibility. My bad. Hadnt thought far enough. :o
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09 Oct 2018 01:34

Lefevre announced their new sponsor, and stated that he wants to keep Gaviria and Mas if possible. The budget will roughly remain the same as previous years, and he will do his best in order to keep them at QuickStep (or better, Deceuninck-QuickStep).
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09 Oct 2018 14:40

It sounds like Lefevre was adamant about the priority of keeping Mas in the interview posted on the news page.
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09 Oct 2018 17:13

perico wrote:It sounds like Lefevre was adamant about the priority of keeping Mas in the interview posted on the news page.

Haven't read the interview yet, but it kind of makes sense. It will be much harder for him to snatch up a guy of the same level as Mas, as it is to try and convince Mas to stay. It will also be easier for his team to replace Gaviria, than it will be to replace Mas. As the nr1 classics and sprint team, they won't have nearly as much problems to find a next in line there.

EDIT: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gavirias-future-still-unclear-after-deceuninck-come-to-lefeveres-aid/
A report in La Gazzetta dello Sport claimed that the sprinter was set to move to UAE Team Emirates, while Lefevere’s latest climbing sensation, Enric Mas, was linked in a move to Astana. The latter's future is set at Quick-Step, with Lefevere stating that the Spaniard will not leave under any circumstances, but Gaviria's 2019 squad remains unclear.


yup
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19 Dec 2018 22:12

Bumping because a rider of this potential should never be relegated to the 4th page on the day of La Vuelta route announcement. Look forward to seeing him on stage 13.
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20 Dec 2018 18:21

perico wrote:Bumping because a rider of this potential should never be relegated to the 4th page on the day of La Vuelta route announcement. Look forward to seeing him on stage 13.



He will (probably) go to the Tour. And since many stars are going to the Giro in 2019, that could actually be really good for him. With an abundance of good riders having either the Giro in their legs or even missing the Tour entirely, I think Mas can get something between 3 and 5 in the overall standings in July.
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20 Dec 2018 18:30

Seeing him at the Vuelta presentation , he’s one of them riders I don’t recognise when he’s not got the Lycra on
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20 Dec 2018 18:55

rick james wrote:Seeing him at the Vuelta presentation , he’s one of them riders I don’t recognise when he’s not got the Lycra on


Ok.
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20 Dec 2018 18:59

If he smiles you should recognize him.

Ginormous mouth + not Aru = Mas
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20 Dec 2018 19:06

Red Rick wrote:If he smiles you should recognize him.

Ginormous mouth + not Aru = Mas

This could also be Julia Roberts.
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20 Dec 2018 19:38

Logic-is-your-friend wrote:
Red Rick wrote:If he smiles you should recognize him.

Ginormous mouth + not Aru = Mas

This could also be Julia Roberts.

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20 Dec 2018 19:53

rick james wrote:Seeing him at the Vuelta presentation , he’s one of them riders I don’t recognise when he’s not got the Lycra on



It's alright. He's one I don't yet recognize when not dressed in his team kit.
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28 Dec 2018 13:29



Jungels, Alaphilippe, Viviani and Mas?

Throw in 2 guys for the train (Richeze, Sabatini, Morkov, Devenyns,..), Declercq and Lampaert/Gilbert
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