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08 Jul 2017 16:47

He may not win the green jersey, he even may not be able to finish the Tour, but at least he won a stage. :cool:

Cipollini's true heir :p
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08 Jul 2017 20:45

I guess having a protected rider status can't help you against getting sick.
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08 Jul 2017 20:58

Cippo would have been DNF while Nono finished the stage :cool: . Tomorrow will be a torture and require a lot of guts: hard enough for a healthy rider, a death march for a sick guy. Hang in there Arnaud.
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08 Jul 2017 21:53

The situation today had me thinking:

If a rider is in a situation in which he - some way out - is well aware that he's already fallen for the time-cut, is he then most likely to battle on to the finish line, knowing he'll be out anyway, or leave then race then-and-there?
In other words; which is the more "honourable" way to leave a race? Having a big fat DNF slapped next to your name? Or having a big fat HD slapped next to your name?
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08 Jul 2017 22:15

I hope he recovers. And wins another stage... :p

I want the same schedule for FDJ next year. I think that Nono has done enough to please the sponsor and make it a strong possibility. France finally has a top-tier sprinter. Rash, maybe, but I take a thoroughbred over a donkey any day.
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08 Jul 2017 22:16

RedheadDane wrote:The situation today had me thinking:
If a rider is in a situation in which he - some way out - is well aware that he's already fallen for the time-cut, is he then most likely to battle on to the finish line, knowing he'll be out anyway, or leave then race then-and-there?
In other words; which is the more "honourable" way to leave a race? Having a big fat DNF slapped next to your name? Or having a big fat HD slapped next to your name?
HD, but it does not matter really. Those who would care would know a rider was sick/injured. Others would not care. If a rider was healthy however, not finishing is for sure worse and would likely show in next nominations for GTs ...
I guess in most cases the DS would call it off to not push needlessly if it is an ilness or an injury etc.
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08 Jul 2017 22:28

I wonder how the heck he'll make it through tomorrow's stage though. Unless he's feeling a lot better?
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09 Jul 2017 15:00

I wonder if today he got the directions wrong and will end up a city away from the finish.
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09 Jul 2017 16:18

OTL today. FDJ down to 5 riders.
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09 Jul 2017 16:20

Unlucky but karma's a beach.
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09 Jul 2017 16:31

trucido wrote:Unlucky but karma's a beach.


Demare DQF helped his career.

He had collected to much hate last week.
If he got the green, the hate may be forever.

Now, his quit relief the hate a little bit.
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09 Jul 2017 17:55

Screecher wrote:OTL today. FDJ down to 5 riders.

With one shot 5 down?Nice.
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09 Jul 2017 18:01

At some point the other FDJ should have soldiered on. Why sacrifice them if you know Demare can't make it.
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09 Jul 2017 18:22

Escarabajo wrote:At some point the other FDJ should have soldiered on. Why sacrifice them if you know Demare can't make it.

Yes, kinda silly decision from the management. But whatever ambitions FDJ have from now on, the loss of four riders are probably not going to matter much, as they are most likely relying on Pinot for a stage win. Losing three rouleurs won't have any big impact on that ambition.
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09 Jul 2017 18:32

trucido wrote:Unlucky but karma's a beach.

Karma for what :confused:
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09 Jul 2017 18:42

toolittle wrote:
trucido wrote:Unlucky but karma's a beach.


Demare DQF helped his career.

He had collected to much hate last week.
If he got the green, the hate may be forever.

Now, his quit relief the hate a little bit.


Judging the comments in l'equipe strangely it's quite the opposite. There was almost no "hate" for Demare in France before today but they are really laying into him now about not sending his teammates ahead. Everyone is grilling him HARD.

Funny how sentiments are completely different depending on where you live and the different media you access.
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09 Jul 2017 18:53

Eagle wrote:
trucido wrote:Unlucky but karma's a beach.

Karma for what :confused:


For not being DQ in stage 4 for dangerous sprinting
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09 Jul 2017 18:57

alter wrote:
Eagle wrote:
trucido wrote:Unlucky but karma's a beach.

Karma for what :confused:


For not being DQ in stage 4 for dangerous sprinting

He should never have been DQed. Relegated, maybe...not DQed...
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09 Jul 2017 19:11

alter wrote:
Eagle wrote:
trucido wrote:Unlucky but karma's a beach.

Karma for what :confused:


For not being DQ in stage 4 for dangerous sprinting

No way should he have been DQ'd for that
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09 Jul 2017 19:16

Sagan was DQed, so let's DQ everybody...except Juraj :D :D :D OTL...
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