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16 Feb 2017 16:28

Mas is a beast!
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16 Feb 2017 16:30

Kwiat looked good closing that gap.
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16 Feb 2017 16:33

amaro antunes has this in the bag :p
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16 Feb 2017 16:36

Looking not bad for the Panzer.
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16 Feb 2017 16:49

Hard fight for the win. Dan Martin takes it.

Roglic 2nd, Kwiatek 3rd at 20 seconds, Antunes, Lulu and Castroviejo at 30 seconds.
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16 Feb 2017 16:51

That was an amazing battle. Rogla is super strong right now, lets see what he has in the TT.
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16 Feb 2017 17:07

Last year there were around 20 riders in 20s on this stage. Today there were only 3. It shows you how the race changes with different approach. The peloton exploded right at the beginning of the climb thanks to Etixx.

Congrats to Dan Martin, but I'm mostly happy to see Rogla for the first time going toe to toe with a world class rider. You could see how strong he is. He did 75% of the work in the last 2km and still Martin was barely able to outsprint him on his terrain.
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16 Feb 2017 17:32

johnymax wrote:Last year there were around 20 riders in 20s on this stage. Today there were only 3. It shows you how the race changes with different approach. The peloton exploded right at the beginning of the climb thanks to Etixx.

Congrats to Dan Martin, but I'm mostly happy to see Rogla for the first time going toe to toe with a world class rider. You could see how strong he is. He did 75% of the work in the last 2km and still Martin was barely able to outsprint him on his terrain.


Different route, the beginning of the climb was harder this year.
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16 Feb 2017 18:08

johnymax wrote:Last year there were around 20 riders in 20s on this stage. Today there were only 3. It shows you how the race changes with different approach. The peloton exploded right at the beginning of the climb thanks to Etixx.

Congrats to Dan Martin, but I'm mostly happy to see Rogla for the first time going toe to toe with a world class rider. You could see how strong he is. He did 75% of the work in the last 2km and still Martin was barely able to outsprint him on his terrain.


It was a fantastic performance by Roglic, but by no stretch of the imagination is a long, shallow, big ring climb Dan Martin's terrain. He's the only world class climber in the field, and so the favourite, but short of going to Colorado it would be hard to find a big climb that plays less to his strengths. It's one for the power guys, which was why Stybar was so effective and also why Quickstep knew they had to go nuts early and make it as hard as possible.
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16 Feb 2017 18:20

Ricco' wrote:Different route, the beginning of the climb was harder this year.

I thought it was the same climb. My bad then. Nonetheless nice last 10km.
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16 Feb 2017 18:24

Hugo Koblet wrote:The parcours would be perfect for a Kwiatkowski in any kind of shape but it doesn't seem like he's got any at the moment. In fact it's a very lackluster field this year, but that makes the GC wide open. I'd expect Roglic, Castroviejo, Sanchez, Cummings and Tony Martin to fight it out with Moscon and Gallopin as dark horses.


Looks prophetic.

It should really be Roglic from here, unless he has an off day in the TT.
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16 Feb 2017 18:28

Why do reports keep saying that Martin is just 26 seconds ahead of Kwiatkowski rather than 4 seconds ahead of a guy who won a GT TT last year?
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16 Feb 2017 18:32

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johnymax wrote:Last year there were around 20 riders in 20s on this stage. Today there were only 3. It shows you how the race changes with different approach. The peloton exploded right at the beginning of the climb thanks to Etixx.

Congrats to Dan Martin, but I'm mostly happy to see Rogla for the first time going toe to toe with a world class rider. You could see how strong he is. He did 75% of the work in the last 2km and still Martin was barely able to outsprint him on his terrain.


It was a fantastic performance by Roglic, but by no stretch of the imagination is a long, shallow, big ring climb Dan Martin's terrain. He's the only world class climber in the field, and so the favourite, but short of going to Colorado it would be hard to find a big climb that plays less to his strengths. It's one for the power guys, which was why Stybar was so effective and also why Quickstep knew they had to go nuts early and make it as hard as possible.


I meant the uphill sprint, not the whole climb. I certainly agree with you, but I was talking about sprinting on 4-6% gradient in the last 200m after a 10km climb. Sure he would prefer a steeper finale but he is still one of the best in the World on this kind of finish.
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16 Feb 2017 18:38

johnymax wrote:
Zinoviev Letter wrote:
johnymax wrote:Last year there were around 20 riders in 20s on this stage. Today there were only 3. It shows you how the race changes with different approach. The peloton exploded right at the beginning of the climb thanks to Etixx.

Congrats to Dan Martin, but I'm mostly happy to see Rogla for the first time going toe to toe with a world class rider. You could see how strong he is. He did 75% of the work in the last 2km and still Martin was barely able to outsprint him on his terrain.


It was a fantastic performance by Roglic, but by no stretch of the imagination is a long, shallow, big ring climb Dan Martin's terrain. He's the only world class climber in the field, and so the favourite, but short of going to Colorado it would be hard to find a big climb that plays less to his strengths. It's one for the power guys, which was why Stybar was so effective and also why Quickstep knew they had to go nuts early and make it as hard as possible.


I meant the uphill sprint, not the whole climb. I certainly agree with you, but I was talking about sprinting on 4-6% gradient in the last 200m after a 10km climb. Sure he would prefer a steeper finale but he is still one of the best in the World on this kind of finish.


Sure. If you come to the flamme rouge on a climb, even a shallow one, with Martin you are probably dead meat unless you are Valverde. Last time I remember an unexpected rider only just about losing in circumstances like that it was a very young Chaves in Beijing which bodes well for Roglic.

(The Chaves example was even more impressive though as it was against a Martin who had just won Lombardia and who went totally berserk in the finale)
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16 Feb 2017 19:26

Roglic at 4 seconds
Castroviejo at 45 seconds
Kwiatkowski at 26 seconds

Top 3 on GC after ITT
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16 Feb 2017 21:14

Castroviejo is in great position to win this race, not saying he's going to. Last year on the same course Castroviejo was 36 seconds quicker than Roglic in the ITT. Now that Roglic seems to be climbing like a maniac again, his time trial may have declined some, while it was the exact opposite last season.
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17 Feb 2017 16:11

So who is leading the TT: Boom or (per that sheet before the ads) Dowsett?
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17 Feb 2017 16:16

Lars Boom (Team Lotto NL-Jumbo), 21m35s
Arnaud Démare (FDJ), 21m36s
Alex Dowsett (Movistar Team), 21m40s
Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Dimension Data), 21m44s
Mads Pedersen (Trek-Segadredo), 21m53s

http://voltaaoalgarve.com/pt/direto-etapa-3/
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17 Feb 2017 16:18

No live stream?
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17 Feb 2017 16:18

Demare :eek:
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