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How would you rate Milano-Sanremo 2017 finale?

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Total votes : 83

19 Mar 2017 14:00

The race is too easy. The tempo over Cipressa was solid, but if not Sagan attack there would be huge 50+ bunch sprint with almost all relevant sprinters. Suggested Civezza climb + Le Manie would be perfect.
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19 Mar 2017 14:42

Rated it 10, just for the meltdown the Sagan fans have had
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19 Mar 2017 15:40

Gave it a 10 just for the last kms. When they began the descent I had no idea who was going to win. I wasn't just on the edge of my seat...I was well out of it.
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19 Mar 2017 15:42

Netserk wrote:Le Manie, Civezza and the hill out of Alassio (as shown below).

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Civezza is immediately before Cipressa with similar stats (5,4 km al 4,8%)

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You also need to think about the distance. I'd applaud making it a >300km race, but I don't know how realistic it will be. The hills you propose would make a great race, but it would be over 300km, I reckon.

Bringing La Manie back would be great. Another possible addition could be doing Via Monaco from Laiguelia (I don't have exact data but it would be something like 1km of 10%). This would come in the place of Capo Mele and this change would make the route only ~1,5km longer. I think it would be just about far enough away from the finish. I don't want to have this type of steep climb closer to the finish, because I wouldn't want to Cipressa + Poggio finale to be ruined, but this climb would definitely tire some legs. This way we can have the same classic finale, but with more tired legs.
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19 Mar 2017 15:49

Did you enjoy Gougeard's attack on the Capo Berta, Maarten? ;)
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19 Mar 2017 18:06

Echoes wrote:Did you enjoy Gougeard's attack on the Capo Berta, Maarten? ;)


I always like riders trying to anticipate and Gougeard anticipates very frequently. :D

Unfortunately in the current route anticipating the finale is a bit difficult.......
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19 Mar 2017 20:36

In the years with Le Manie it was 298km. This year it was 291km. Adding Civezza would make it 7km longer, so it'd still be under 300km with that. Not that I get what anyone (even including UCI) could have against a handful of additional kms.

Anyway, you could just extend the neutral start if it's important to have the race under 300km.
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19 Mar 2017 23:33

Sagan lost, 10/10, would watch again.
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Re: How would you rate Milano-Sanremo 2017 finale?

20 Mar 2017 00:12

Of course, and Netserk knows it :p , I give it a 8 :D .

50 or so riders in the main field shows little action overall, but what a finish! Proof that the Poggio can still make a difference, three super riders going at it, a very close sprint...I don't understand bad ratings for this one.
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20 Mar 2017 00:55

Nearly 300km of racing, and nothing of significance happened until the last 7km. I can't give more than a 5 for that! And all that happened in the last 7km was one rider attacked... two followed... the first attacker stays at the front practically the entire time and is the first to start the sprint as well. Hardly any action in this race whatsoever. I think people rate this really high because of the names of the riders in the top 3. I can understand that. It was exciting to watch the last 7km. I just think for a monument, a good monument has a lot more than this.

People talk about the finish as if it was special. I don't understand. Yes it was exciting. But how could it have been much less exciting than this? It doesn't get much worse.
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Re: How would you rate Milano-Sanremo 2017 finale?

20 Mar 2017 01:25

Rated it a solid 5 because I always wanted to know what it would look like if Canc could tow someone literally all the way to the line disregarding tactics but I kind of always knew this would happen.
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20 Mar 2017 04:03

red_flanders wrote:Good race–I gave it a 7. Always great to see Sagan on the rampage. I reserve a 9 or 10 for a solo win. I guess there aren't many 9's or 10's coming soon, but oh well. I enjoyed it today.


Each unto their own I suppose, but what about Paris Roubaix 2016? 5 heavy weight men on empty legs was a glorious 10 for sure. Does Terpstra's solo beat that?
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20 Mar 2017 04:51

spiritualride wrote:Nearly 300km of racing, and nothing of significance happened until the last 7km. I can't give more than a 5 for that! And all that happened in the last 7km was one rider attacked... two followed... the first attacker stays at the front practically the entire time and is the first to start the sprint as well. Hardly any action in this race whatsoever. I think people rate this really high because of the names of the riders in the top 3. I can understand that. It was exciting to watch the last 7km. I just think for a monument, a good monument has a lot more than this.

People talk about the finish as if it was special. I don't understand. Yes it was exciting. But how could it have been much less exciting than this? It doesn't get much worse.

As the OP said, this is only a rating for the finale. This is MSR. It pretty much always sucks until the very end. Frankly, we couldn't have hoped for much more than we got. For an MSR in this day and age, I thought is was damned good.
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20 Mar 2017 05:14

The excitement comes as much from knowing what might happen as from what actuo does happen.
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20 Mar 2017 05:52

The Hegelian wrote:
red_flanders wrote:Good race–I gave it a 7. Always great to see Sagan on the rampage. I reserve a 9 or 10 for a solo win. I guess there aren't many 9's or 10's coming soon, but oh well. I enjoyed it today.


Each unto their own I suppose, but what about Paris Roubaix 2016? 5 heavy weight men on empty legs was a glorious 10 for sure. Does Terpstra's solo beat that?


I mean in MSR. I think to truly make MSR exciting and epic one needs the breakaway solo. Roubaix needs nothing––it's epic by definition.
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20 Mar 2017 08:13

red_flanders wrote:
The Hegelian wrote:
red_flanders wrote:Good race–I gave it a 7. Always great to see Sagan on the rampage. I reserve a 9 or 10 for a solo win. I guess there aren't many 9's or 10's coming soon, but oh well. I enjoyed it today.


Each unto their own I suppose, but what about Paris Roubaix 2016? 5 heavy weight men on empty legs was a glorious 10 for sure. Does Terpstra's solo beat that?


I mean in MSR. I think to truly make MSR exciting and epic one needs the breakaway solo. Roubaix needs nothing––it's epic by definition.


Ah. That makes a lot more sense....
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20 Mar 2017 08:49

They should start the race in Genoa, still call it Milano-Sanremo of course. We could then include climbs like Monte Beigua, Passo di Ghimbegna or Monte Ceppo to make everybody happy for some eeeeeepic racing.
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20 Mar 2017 11:51

I give it 7 because there are never many surprises in MSR anyway and the three way sprint was good to watch.plus the fact that some of the pre race favorites got dropped on the final climb. It's never a very tactical race except in the last few kms.
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20 Mar 2017 19:44

Compared to what we usually get, a 9.
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