Log in:  

Register

The Is Marc Soler the Next Great Spanish Climber Thread

A place to discuss all things related to current professional road races. Here, you can also touch on the latest news relating to professional road racing. A doping discussion free forum.

Moderators: Eshnar, Irondan, King Boonen, Red Rick, Pricey_sky

The Is Marc Soler the Next Great Spanish Climber Thread

24 Mar 2017 17:07

He hung with Valverde, Froome, and Contador today right up to the very end while making pace. Just 23 years old.

What else do we know about this guy? He finished 2nd overall in the Rut De Sud last year to his teammate Quintana and won the Tour de l'Avenir in 2015, which is always a good sign.

Can he TT?
Juan Pelota
Junior Member
 
Posts: 138
Joined: 01 May 2009 15:42

24 Mar 2017 17:15

Soler and Gaudu are 2 very good surprises today... Great potential.
veji11
Member
 
Posts: 817
Joined: 15 Apr 2013 08:53

24 Mar 2017 17:18

Soler is doing great he is having a great season and made a nice step since last year. Ruben Fernandez is another young Spanish diamond in the Movistar ranks.
User avatar Ruudz0r
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,563
Joined: 09 Jun 2011 17:31
Location: The Netherlands

24 Mar 2017 17:35

Yes, he can TT. Bronze medal in 2014 amateur Spanish TT championships. 2014 was his take off year, he was very impressive in the Spanish amateur races and because of that Movistar signed him in 2015.
Cordi333
New Member
 
Posts: 33
Joined: 31 Jan 2017 17:13

Re:

24 Mar 2017 17:39

Ruudz0r wrote:Soler is doing great he is having a great season and made a nice step since last year. Ruben Fernandez is another young Spanish diamond in the Movistar ranks.


Rubén Fernández is no longer considered a young rider. He still has room to improve but he is not in that category.

I'm sure that other people will explain it better than me, but in conclusion: we have in Spain some interesting upcoming talent (unfortunately much less than in past decades) of which only Soler and Enric Mas can be considered of GV-contending potential.

On the other hand, we more than survive thanks to our great champions Contador and Valverde expanding their prime way past normal standards, seeing how riders in their prime like Landa and Izagirre fare, and developing the next generation for the 2020's.

As bad as the current situation is, it could've been way worse if for example Contador and Valverde had not been able to sustain their level consistently after their sanctions or without Purito's unlikely leap forward. We could've had a depressing transition between the golden generation born in the late 70s - early 80s (the 2 mentioned above, Purito, Sanchez, Freire, Sastre etc) and the generation born well into the 1990s.
User avatar KyoGrey
Member
 
Posts: 541
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 21:57
Location: España

24 Mar 2017 17:44

Tell me more about Enric Mas.
Juan Pelota
Junior Member
 
Posts: 138
Joined: 01 May 2009 15:42

Re: The Is Marc Soler the Next Great Spanish Climber Thread

24 Mar 2017 18:27

Hi Lance.
''The battle between Démare and Bouhanni for being France's best sprinter is decided: it's Coquard.'' - BBB
User avatar BigMac
Veteran
 
Posts: 8,352
Joined: 10 Jun 2013 22:10
Location: Estoril, Portugal

24 Mar 2017 20:07

This so much more than I expected from him. He'll be one hell of a rider!
User avatar Mr.White
Member
 
Posts: 1,934
Joined: 13 Mar 2015 17:13

24 Mar 2017 20:18

Apparently his performance today was the fastest climbing performance of someone aged 23 since Andy Schleck
Juan Pelota
Junior Member
 
Posts: 138
Joined: 01 May 2009 15:42

Re:

24 Mar 2017 20:47

Juan Pelota wrote:Apparently his performance today was the fastest climbing performance of someone aged 23 since Andy Schleck



Faster than Nairo?
User avatar the asian
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4,562
Joined: 20 Jan 2011 18:09
Location: Colombo

24 Mar 2017 23:49

I expected Ruben Fernandez to be the better rider. Don't ask me why.

Just watching Soler ride you can tell he has an amazing motor. He can just go on and on and on, it was the stuff he did in Route du Sud. If he rode better tactically, he would also have won that stage in Paris-Nice. And lets not forget his performance the day before towing Gorka izagirre up the Couiloille.

Really good to La Molina. Set up Valverde perfectly and he is very gracious for that, but today was still his best overall performance. Simply amazing. Both Froome, Contador and Valverde noted in their post race interviews just how strong Soler was.

I don't know exactly the rider he is gonna be, but he seems durable and consistent, the kinda rider that doesn't fold and just continues pushing watts out. And most importantly can tolerate the extreme pain. He is also quite a bit bigger than the other riders, no? With those skills, I reckon he could be a very good GT-rider.

He will also be selected for Pais Vasco, I hope, and then hopefully will get a big break and either focus on being 100% for TdF or La Vuelta. If he chooses the ladder, he probably will be one of the absolute best climbers in the race considering everyone else will have ridden Giro or TdF.
"Es el mejor con y sin"
WORLD CHAMPION
User avatar Valv.Piti
Veteran
 
Posts: 9,679
Joined: 03 Aug 2015 00:00
Location: Dinamarca, Aalborg

25 Mar 2017 00:41

And where's the David Gaudu Superstar thread? This the appropriate place to talk Champion potential about.

Tour of L'Avenir and Course de la Paix winner. 20 years old neoprofessional rider that improves Pinot power data at his same age and is only 50" far of Contador and Froome on his first WT race on a supermountain stage (finishing 7° against all GT riders on good form on top mountain race like when have u seen something like that on such a youngster?)

Soler has great legs great engine, but where's the winner nature?
Charly_Gaul
New Member
 
Posts: 18
Joined: 29 Jul 2016 02:27

Re:

25 Mar 2017 15:18

Charly_Gaul wrote:And where's the David Gaudu Superstar thread? This the appropriate place to talk Champion potential about.

Tour of L'Avenir and Course de la Paix winner. 20 years old neoprofessional rider that improves Pinot power data at his same age and is only 50" far of Contador and Froome on his first WT race on a supermountain stage (finishing 7° against all GT riders on good form on top mountain race like when have u seen something like that on such a youngster?)

Soler has great legs great engine, but where's the winner nature?


Soler won the Tour of L'Avenir as well.

Gaudu has great potential. Is he really 5'8 and only 117 pounds? That's insane.
Juan Pelota
Junior Member
 
Posts: 138
Joined: 01 May 2009 15:42

Re: The Is Marc Soler the Next Great Spanish Climber Thread

25 Mar 2017 15:32

His riding reminds me of 2012 Quintana ...
deValtos
Member
 
Posts: 1,863
Joined: 29 Nov 2010 09:27

Re: The Is Marc Soler the Next Great Spanish Climber Thread

25 Mar 2017 16:33

deValtos wrote:His riding reminds me of 2012 Quintana ...

Thats actually a very good comparison so far!
"Es el mejor con y sin"
WORLD CHAMPION
User avatar Valv.Piti
Veteran
 
Posts: 9,679
Joined: 03 Aug 2015 00:00
Location: Dinamarca, Aalborg

26 Mar 2017 20:19

I think he was on the podium like 4 times today. :D

The attack he made today looked easy, but unfortunately Contador chased him down. Could have been a good and deserving stage victory for Soler after this race where he has raced out of his mind.
"Es el mejor con y sin"
WORLD CHAMPION
User avatar Valv.Piti
Veteran
 
Posts: 9,679
Joined: 03 Aug 2015 00:00
Location: Dinamarca, Aalborg

Re:

26 Mar 2017 20:58

Valv.Piti wrote:I think he was on the podium like 4 times today. :D

The attack he made today looked easy, but unfortunately Contador chased him down. Could have been a good and deserving stage victory for Soler after this race where he has raced out of his mind.


it seems like second place mattered for "The Great One" this time :p
User avatar Mr.White
Member
 
Posts: 1,934
Joined: 13 Mar 2015 17:13

Re: Re:

26 Mar 2017 21:03

Mr.White wrote:
Valv.Piti wrote:I think he was on the podium like 4 times today. :D

The attack he made today looked easy, but unfortunately Contador chased him down. Could have been a good and deserving stage victory for Soler after this race where he has raced out of his mind.


it seems like second place mattered for "The Great One" this time :p

If rumours were to be true, he should even have faked a puncture and ended up 4th overall! :p
"Es el mejor con y sin"
WORLD CHAMPION
User avatar Valv.Piti
Veteran
 
Posts: 9,679
Joined: 03 Aug 2015 00:00
Location: Dinamarca, Aalborg

27 Mar 2017 16:38

Last time Volta a Catalunya visited Lo Port (in 1991) there was a 23yo stagier at ONCE riding his first pro race who managed to be with the best in that climb (Herrera & Delgado) until the final km and get to the finish in the first group with the likes of Indurain. He finished 3rd in GC. Manolo Saiz gave him a pro contract immediately. His name was Alex Zülle.
ice&fire
Member
 
Posts: 1,405
Joined: 01 Jul 2015 19:30

Re:

27 Mar 2017 18:59

Ruudz0r wrote:Soler is doing great he is having a great season and made a nice step since last year. Ruben Fernandez is another young Spanish diamond in the Movistar ranks.

Ruben Fernandez is a puncheur IMO. A puncheur/explosive climber for brutal climbs such as Muro de Aia (and the rest of the Pais Vasco climbs), Mirador De Ézaro, Montelupone, maybe Mur de Huy.

Not made for longer mountains.
WheelofGear
Member
 
Posts: 1,737
Joined: 13 May 2015 06:46

Next

Return to Professional road racing

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], dusty red roads, Google [Bot], Jakob747 and 14 guests

Back to top