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01 Jun 2017 13:29

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GenericBoonenFan wrote:HLN.be just said that Kristoff might join Astana next year, since he isn't very happy with the critism he got from them.


Sky have also shown interest in the past and could offer much stronger support.

But also competition, although not that much to be fair
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01 Jun 2017 16:00

I hope Sky signs Kristoff, it would be a refreshing change from signing my favorites.
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01 Jun 2017 20:02

LaFlorecita wrote:I hope Sky signs Kristoff, it would be a refreshing change from signing my favorites.

You've jinxed it now; apparently they're going to sign Colbrelli and Dumoulin.
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02 Jun 2017 10:36

I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p
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02 Jun 2017 11:03

I wouldn't mind Kristoff to AStana at all. Finally some hope for a decent spring classics campaign :)
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02 Jun 2017 11:20

deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p


Tried to in 2010.
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02 Jun 2017 11:22

There are some rumors about Hirt to Astana.

I actually expected him to go to a team like that.
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02 Jun 2017 11:29

deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p

Go wash your mouth out
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02 Jun 2017 11:34

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Jancouver wrote:I can imagine Hirt going to Bora to replace Konig or Konrad. He can also help Majka. They do need another climber and he can be an outright leader for Giro or Vuelta.


Konig stays at Bora until 2019. he signed a 3 year deal


My comment was more related to Konig's ongoing health issues as he may be forced to retire ... we should have an answer in the next few weeks
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02 Jun 2017 11:51

LaFlorecita wrote:
deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p

Go wash your mouth out


They had brief talks prior to Sky signing Wiggins.
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02 Jun 2017 12:31

MatParker117 wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p

Go wash your mouth out


They had brief talks prior to Sky signing Wiggins.

I know that. Dodged a bullet, he would have ended up like EBH.
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02 Jun 2017 12:34

LaFlorecita wrote:
MatParker117 wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p

Go wash your mouth out


They had brief talks prior to Sky signing Wiggins.

I know that. Dodged a bullet, he would have ended up like EBH.


He should've gone to Sky, he might have actually won some races :D :D
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02 Jun 2017 12:37

LaFlorecita wrote:
MatParker117 wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p

Go wash your mouth out


They had brief talks prior to Sky signing Wiggins.

I know that. Dodged a bullet, he would have ended up like EBH.


Winning a race in France?
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02 Jun 2017 18:35

LaFlorecita wrote:
MatParker117 wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p

Go wash your mouth out


They had brief talks prior to Sky signing Wiggins.

I know that. Dodged a bullet, he would have ended up like EBH.


think for a moment about this, if Sky signed Alberto from 2010, the view we all have on Team Sky would be completely different. in 2010 the vitriol wasnt there yet. the minds werent still bugged with the Sky-problem.

things would have been very different. so very different.

dont think about Contador signing for Sky 7 years ago at the beginning of Sky in 2010, with the sky-bugged mind of the last 4-5 years
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02 Jun 2017 18:56

pastronef wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
MatParker117 wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
deValtos wrote:I heard Sky were looking to sign Contador ... :p

Go wash your mouth out


They had brief talks prior to Sky signing Wiggins.

I know that. Dodged a bullet, he would have ended up like EBH.


think for a moment about this, if Sky signed Alberto from 2010, the view we all have on Team Sky would be completely different. in 2010 the vitriol wasnt there yet. the minds werent still bugged with the Sky-problem.

things would have been very different. so very different.

dont think about Contador signing for Sky 7 years ago at the beginning of Sky in 2010, with the sky-bugged mind of the last 4-5 years

You're probably right. There wouldn't have been the improbable transformations, maybe the marginal gains stuff would have been toned down and the riding would be more aggressive (you'd hope) with a rider like Contador.

Why didn't they sign him? Sponsors wanting a British rider, I imagine, as Contador in 2010 was a far more attractive proposition than Wiggins was. Or was it money? Or just the Brailsford ethos?
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02 Jun 2017 19:04

Brullnux wrote:You're probably right. There wouldn't have been the improbable transformations, maybe the marginal gains stuff would have been toned down and the riding would be more aggressive (you'd hope) with a rider like Contador.

Why didn't they sign him? Sponsors wanting a British rider, I imagine, as Contador in 2010 was a far more attractive proposition than Wiggins was. Or was it money? Or just the Brailsford ethos?


It was Sky promising "a British Tour de France winner within 5 years".
So they couldn't sign Contador.
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02 Jun 2017 19:20

Or maybe Contador himself wasn't that excited about the project?
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02 Jun 2017 20:42

LaFlorecita wrote:Or maybe Contador himself wasn't that excited about the project?

You & Me both truly believe that Sir Dave is even less likable than Vino or Lance & Bruyneel!

Wouldn't surprise if Berti thought just the same when even we do agree for once! :lol:
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03 Jun 2017 09:53

LaFlorecita wrote:Or maybe Contador himself wasn't that excited about the project?

Yeah, what I call the 'Brailsford ethos'. Some like it, some hate it.
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03 Jun 2017 09:58

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LaFlorecita wrote:Or maybe Contador himself wasn't that excited about the project?

You & Me both truly believe that Sir Dave is even less likable than Vino or Lance & Bruyneel!

Wouldn't surprise if Berti thought just the same when even we do agree for once! :lol:


fine
but dont think about it NOW
think about it with your 2010 knowledge and point of view about Sky and DB. we still didnt know anything, we still didnt foam from the mouth anytime we read or hear the word SKY
it´s an interesting exercise.
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