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Now that Contador has retired, in which rider should I emoti

Landa - strong climber, hints of panache, AC-approved, team leader next year
26
26%
Quintana - surely he'll return to form and beat Froome via attacks in style, right?
5
5%
Chavito
9
9%
Superman Lopez
14
14%
Zakarin
4
4%
Dumoulin - took a dump and won the Giro but a bit like Froome 2.0
14
14%
Nibali - a bit like becoming a Contador fane in April 2015
11
11%
Mas - play the long game
11
11%
Aru - that pain face though
3
3%
Bardet - openly admitted he's not willing to put in the work to excel at the TT - not exactly the attitude of el campeon
4
4%
 
Total votes : 101

12 Sep 2017 09:26

Landa I think, not the same panache as AC but I think he is angry and will go crazy nest year. He doesn`t have to win all he has to do is ride like AC and take risks.
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12 Sep 2017 09:49

Pantani_lives wrote:
Valv.Piti wrote:I obviously also have to throw Marc Soler in the mix, lets see if my hype pays off, but I genuinely think he will be a big thing.

I expected more of him in the Vuelta, a stage win or a top 10. But he will only turn 24 in November and he was in several breakaways, so he has potential.

I find 24 quite old this day&age. Many youngsters were these years in several breakaways, so i guess they also have potential. But then, AC himself did a kaboom at 25, so he still has a year to catch up big time. Miguel Lopez is a year younger and this Vuelta he showed much more, than just several breakaways. For now, when it comes to Spaniards, Enric Mas seems to have a bit more to offer, while being 2 years younger. Also, what happened to Ruben Fernandez, as he was a big deal like a year to two years ago, and now i don't hear much about him? Maybe a crash, and i just missed it.
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Re: Post AC - who to cheer for?

12 Sep 2017 10:10

Landa & Zakarin looks like a safe bet for those who refuse to join the Night's Watch :lol: They got Bernal,though.
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12 Sep 2017 10:47

Hey, what about Alaphilippe?
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12 Sep 2017 11:16

Pennino wrote:Hey, what about Alaphilippe?

It's the post-AC thread, not the post-AV thread!
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12 Sep 2017 11:37

I was spoilt for choice in the Vuelta: Alberto (bless him), Nibali & Aru.
Now I'm left with two.
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12 Sep 2017 11:41

I dont think Landa is a champion...there I said it ...I think he ia a great climber but no champion and not one who will put it on the line ...no way

Zakarin I like better as he kinda throws himself into things ...quite literally

But when it comes to personality and presence and grit...it has to be Dumoulin ....he has it all going on..he is a champion

None of the young Spanish are near yet so hard to say

Chaves is a lovely guy and great on the short steep stuff but TT and longer MTNs are not great

Yates boys for me have a plateau of top 5...

Quintana has hardly set the World on fire but Lopez looks ot have more panache...but time will tell

I like Bardet & Pinot ....both try and attack ....Of the 2 Pinot is the more rounded and attractive (as a rider)plus he overcame that descending issue which took balls

Aru...pain face is impossible to watch and keep food down...plus he seems to fade badly in 3 weeks races ...not sure what that is about...plus heard pros dont like him and some think he is dodgy

Nibali is the man....great all round rider but maybe we have seen the best of him ...but definitely a champion worth shouting for
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12 Sep 2017 11:42

with froome and sky causing a massive damage to fans' souls,one would prefer some evil warrior. nobody would play this role so well as fabio aru imo.
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Re: Re:

12 Sep 2017 11:46

Alexandre B. wrote:
Pennino wrote:Hey, what about Alaphilippe?

It's the post-AC thread, not the post-AV thread!


Polak combines the best of both of them. But he is not a copy at all. Just a silly happy dude. Let's hope he'll develop more towards AC then towards AV.
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12 Sep 2017 11:50

Lopez, injury free and a year older. With a strong Astana team and a Vino in the car, he will literally make mountains crumble in 2018.
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12 Sep 2017 11:55

Either Landa, Lopez or Aru for me. I'm going with Lopez after some of his showings this Vuelta. He may have some of the panache we're missing in the pro peloton these days.
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12 Sep 2017 12:12

HelloDolly wrote:I dont think Landa is a champion...there I said it ...I think he ia a great climber but no champion and not one who will put it on the line ...no way

Zakarin I like better as he kinda throws himself into things ...quite literally

But when it comes to personality and presence and grit...it has to be Dumoulin ....he has it all going on..he is a champion

None of the young Spanish are near yet so hard to say

Chaves is a lovely guy and great on the short steep stuff but TT and longer MTNs are not great

Yates boys for me have a plateau of top 5...

Quintana has hardly set the World on fire but Lopez looks ot have more panache...but time will tell

I like Bardet & Pinot ....both try and attack ....Of the 2 Pinot is the more rounded and attractive (as a rider)plus he overcame that descending issue which took balls

Aru...pain face is impossible to watch and keep food down...plus he seems to fade badly in 3 weeks races ...not sure what that is about...plus heard pros dont like him and some think he is dodgy

Nibali is the man....great all round rider but maybe we have seen the best of him ...but definitely a champion worth shouting for


Landa is definitely not a champion. A real champ doesn't miss in two (!) GT's the opportunity to take the top step instead of staying with his vulnerable leader. And considering his age he has shown little to be even close to a champion.
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12 Sep 2017 12:25

Two riders that I'd like to see achieve GT podiums: Fulgsang and Porte.

To a lesser extent TJ.

I'm more inclined to go for the battling top ten type. It's just that Contador was something else.
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12 Sep 2017 12:34

Pennino wrote:
HelloDolly wrote:I dont think Landa is a champion...there I said it ...I think he ia a great climber but no champion and not one who will put it on the line ...no way

Zakarin I like better as he kinda throws himself into things ...quite literally

But when it comes to personality and presence and grit...it has to be Dumoulin ....he has it all going on..he is a champion

None of the young Spanish are near yet so hard to say

Chaves is a lovely guy and great on the short steep stuff but TT and longer MTNs are not great

Yates boys for me have a plateau of top 5...

Quintana has hardly set the World on fire but Lopez looks ot have more panache...but time will tell

I like Bardet & Pinot ....both try and attack ....Of the 2 Pinot is the more rounded and attractive (as a rider)plus he overcame that descending issue which took balls

Aru...pain face is impossible to watch and keep food down...plus he seems to fade badly in 3 weeks races ...not sure what that is about...plus heard pros dont like him and some think he is dodgy

Nibali is the man....great all round rider but maybe we have seen the best of him ...but definitely a champion worth shouting for


Landa is definitely not a champion. A real champ doesn't miss in two (!) GT's the opportunity to take the top step instead of staying with his vulnerable leader.


What, like Chris Froome?
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12 Sep 2017 12:47

I'm Dutch and have patriotic tendencies when watching sports, so will root for Dumoulin, and also for Poels (even as a Sky rider), Kruijswijk, Kelderman, Mollema, Gesink and Oomen. After many many dry years we Dutch have stumbled upon a great cycling generation, which kind of compensates for the horrible state of the Dutch football team these days. As many here, I don't like the Sky hegemony and I do like attacking riders. I did not mind Kelderman losing 3rd in the Vuelta that much, as Zakarin and Contador were more attack-minded and proved stronger in the end. My main hope is that the Sky train is cracked soon. I hope that Dumoulin will crack Froome and Sky next year; for that to happen, he needs to improve in the mountains and Sunweb needs to become twice as strong, so it won't be easy. I'd like to see Lopez, Quintana and Landa attacking sky in the mountains. I don't dislike Froome as a person, he seems to be very friendly. But I want his and Sky's stranglehold on the GT's broken.
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12 Sep 2017 12:55

Simply enjoy cycling coverage, get some guys you kinda like and spend the winter watching some old classics of your favorite sports hero. Just like I use to do with today's cycling and Pantani!
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12 Sep 2017 13:04

King Of The Wolds wrote:
Pennino wrote:
HelloDolly wrote:I dont think Landa is a champion...there I said it ...I think he ia a great climber but no champion and not one who will put it on the line ...no way

Zakarin I like better as he kinda throws himself into things ...quite literally

But when it comes to personality and presence and grit...it has to be Dumoulin ....he has it all going on..he is a champion

None of the young Spanish are near yet so hard to say

Chaves is a lovely guy and great on the short steep stuff but TT and longer MTNs are not great

Yates boys for me have a plateau of top 5...

Quintana has hardly set the World on fire but Lopez looks ot have more panache...but time will tell

I like Bardet & Pinot ....both try and attack ....Of the 2 Pinot is the more rounded and attractive (as a rider)plus he overcame that descending issue which took balls

Aru...pain face is impossible to watch and keep food down...plus he seems to fade badly in 3 weeks races ...not sure what that is about...plus heard pros dont like him and some think he is dodgy

Nibali is the man....great all round rider but maybe we have seen the best of him ...but definitely a champion worth shouting for


Landa is definitely not a champion. A real champ doesn't miss in two (!) GT's the opportunity to take the top step instead of staying with his vulnerable leader.


What, like Chris Froome?


Is Froome a real champ, apart from his results? Always nervous talking on the radio, always riding exactly according to plan. He is the leader because of his exceptional physical characteristics, but he is (almost) never fighting a real race. He takes the lead at some point and then defends, behind his awfully powerful team.

Otherwise he is just the exception that confirms the rule.
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12 Sep 2017 13:16

Jspear wrote:
Durden93 wrote:Anyone but Froome.


This is where I'm at right now. I do like other riders. Chaves, Aru, Pinot, and others. But....I'm not gonna just expect someone to take the place of AC. I'm not gonna force it. I didn't have to try and like AC. I just fell in love with him and the way he raced. I'll just wait for it to happen organically. (that sounds dumb :D )


It's not dumb at all, one day the one that ignites you shows up. We just have to wait until he does; watch the races, ride the bike. Sooner or later The One will show up. I waited from Pantani in mid 2001, just enjoying racing and rooting for whoever pre race, until I saw this young kid named Alberto Contador ride in 2006 and I was smitten. Then in 2010 I saw the young Nibali and I had a number 2.

Riders like Contador don't come around often, accept it and just be patient. It can't be forced; it happens when you see someone that leaves you with your jaw dropping and your heart pounding. That is organically :).
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12 Sep 2017 13:38

DNP-Old wrote:
GraftPunk wrote:I went with Mas, but there are a few up and comers with potential, like he and Bol.

Bol as in.... Jetse Bol?


Yep, and yes, I know he's 28, but I think he'll slot in well as an exciting rider for future classics more so than GTs, but who knows.
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12 Sep 2017 14:26

RedheadDane wrote:All of them. Why limit yourself to only cheer for one (or a few) guy(s)? Some completely unknown guy might do something that'll make you jump around, shouting at the screen.


this, all in their own way,
although I think Dumoulin, at this years Giro makes me think he'll be most impressive of all, if he wasn't already this year. Especially because of his charisma. On the bike and off the bike. He's special.
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