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Re: Tour de France 2019

10 Jan 2019 11:17

wildcards to Cofidis & Wanty.
other 2 will be awarded later, according to L'Equipe this will be after Paris-Nice (10-17 March)
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10 Jan 2019 11:30

I guess Vital Concept will fail to make the cut.
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10 Jan 2019 11:50

There are long running rumors on Italian press about Direct Energie wanting to go to the Giro, maybe they are waiting to know if they'll receive a WC from RCS considering that two GTs are very hard for a professional.
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10 Jan 2019 12:08

I'd be amazed if Wanty got in at the expense of Vital Concept
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10 Jan 2019 12:55

Eyeballs Out wrote:I'd be amazed if Wanty got in at the expense of Vital Concept


Agree, I can't understand the TDFs love for Wanty. They offer absolutely nothing besides G. Martin, and he has been almost completely anonymous in his first 2 chances. It makes no sence at all to pick them ahead of a whole french team with Coquard, Rolland and Vichot.

Hopefully it will be Direct Energie that misses out now and not Vital Concept, and that could then well ofcourse explain their flirt with the Giro.
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10 Jan 2019 13:06

Is there a rule forbidding 23 teams?

It wouldn't exceed the previous maximum of 200 riders.
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10 Jan 2019 13:10

Grand Départ in Brussels makes Wanty an obvious choice besides the reasons in previous years.
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10 Jan 2019 13:13

Bouhanni to "liven up" the sprints again!
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10 Jan 2019 14:28

tobydawq wrote:Is there a rule forbidding 23 teams?

It wouldn't exceed the previous maximum of 200 riders.


Yes, there is.
2.2.002 prohibits more than 176 riders (except World/Olympic/Continental/Regional/National championships)
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10 Jan 2019 15:07

I feel Direct Energie offers the least among the candidates. Terpstra is a big name, but not for the kind of race that the Tour is. Other than that, there's just Calmejane really. Coquard/Rolland/Vichot and Barguil/Greipel must surely have more appeal?
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10 Jan 2019 16:43

MADRAZO wrote:
Eyeballs Out wrote:I'd be amazed if Wanty got in at the expense of Vital Concept


Agree, I can't understand the TDFs love for Wanty. They offer absolutely nothing besides G. Martin, and he has been almost completely anonymous in his first 2 chances. It makes no sence at all to pick them ahead of a whole french team with Coquard, Rolland and Vichot.

Hopefully it will be Direct Energie that misses out now and not Vital Concept, and that could then well ofcourse explain their flirt with the Giro.


From 2020, the first two ranked PTC teams get automatic spots for GT's - TDF is getting in a year early.
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10 Jan 2019 18:54

Squire wrote:I feel Direct Energie offers the least among the candidates. Terpstra is a big name, but not for the kind of race that the Tour is. Other than that, there's just Calmejane really. Coquard/Rolland/Vichot and Barguil/Greipel must surely have more appeal?

At the meantime, we get Wanty again while one of these teams wont make the cut. Thats pretty bad. I think Fortuneto wont make it again
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10 Jan 2019 19:06

yaco wrote:
MADRAZO wrote:
Eyeballs Out wrote:I'd be amazed if Wanty got in at the expense of Vital Concept


Agree, I can't understand the TDFs love for Wanty. They offer absolutely nothing besides G. Martin, and he has been almost completely anonymous in his first 2 chances. It makes no sence at all to pick them ahead of a whole french team with Coquard, Rolland and Vichot.

Hopefully it will be Direct Energie that misses out now and not Vital Concept, and that could then well ofcourse explain their flirt with the Giro.


From 2020, the first two ranked PTC teams get automatic spots for GT's - TDF is getting in a year early.


What point do they take the rankings?
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10 Jan 2019 21:01

Wanty Groupe Gobert won the Europe Tour for the 3rd year in a row.
The Tour starts in Belgium and passes through Binche, hometown of Wanty..
2nd highest procontinental team in the 2018 CQ ranking behind Cofidis.

I really wonder why they're in.
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10 Jan 2019 21:17

When I was at the Tour last year, one team was visible literally everywhere around the race; Direct Energie. They were even the only team sponsor represented in the commercial caravan.

I wouldn't be too certain they are the ones to be snubbed.
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10 Jan 2019 21:28

Breh wrote:Wanty Groupe Gobert won the Europe Tour for the 3rd year in a row.
The Tour starts in Belgium and passes through Binche, hometown of Wanty..
2nd highest procontinental team in the 2018 CQ ranking behind Cofidis.

I really wonder why they're in.

But they rarely do anything in the Tour apart from your regular 3-man morning break (which of course has value). But in terms of biggish names, they have just one which is a rider in the mold of Louis Meintjens. The other teams simply have more interesting, big names who actually can do something on the biggest stage
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10 Jan 2019 22:05

Valv.Piti wrote:
Breh wrote:Wanty Groupe Gobert won the Europe Tour for the 3rd year in a row.
The Tour starts in Belgium and passes through Binche, hometown of Wanty..
2nd highest procontinental team in the 2018 CQ ranking behind Cofidis.

I really wonder why they're in.

But they rarely do anything in the Tour apart from your regular 3-man morning break (which of course has value). But in terms of biggish names, they have just one which is a rider in the mold of Louis Meintjens. The other teams simply have more interesting, big names who actually can do something on the biggest stage


I really don't think, that we should rate sporting values too high. Actually I believe it's all about how close these teams and the owners are with ASO and Prudhomme. It's the Tour. The Tour is way bigger then any rider. It's of no matter, who these guys are, who are animating the race in the first four hours of tv coverage. It's good, when they are from France, so it's possible to tell a nice story on television. That's it.
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10 Jan 2019 22:40

Valv.Piti wrote:
Breh wrote:Wanty Groupe Gobert won the Europe Tour for the 3rd year in a row.
The Tour starts in Belgium and passes through Binche, hometown of Wanty..
2nd highest procontinental team in the 2018 CQ ranking behind Cofidis.

I really wonder why they're in.

But they rarely do anything in the Tour apart from your regular 3-man morning break (which of course has value). But in terms of biggish names, they have just one which is a rider in the mold of Louis Meintjens. The other teams simply have more interesting, big names who actually can do something on the biggest stage


What did Greipel, Terpstra and Barguil offer last year? Or anyone from Fortuneo/Direct Energie?

These accomplished, bigger names did nothing of note while WGG won the Europe Tour.
Terpstra had a nice classics season.
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11 Jan 2019 03:16

Some are overly complicate things - First two rated PCT get a wildcard - It's nothing to do with sponsorship or being chummy with the ASO.
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Re: Tour de France 2019

26 Jan 2019 03:41

Wouldn't this be a better WC system:

2 based on ranking
2 discretionary

Top 6 Pro-Conti each get 1 GT on ranking with Top 2 having first choice etc.

If a team passes on a race 2 years in a row then they can't be awarded a discretionary place in the 2nd year.

Wanty riding the Giro and Vuelta with their second string while other squads sit at home will be terrible.
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