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16/04 - 20/04: Tour of the Alps (Giro del Trentino)

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16/04 - 20/04: Tour of the Alps (Giro del Trentino)

13 Apr 2018 17:04

Stage 1:
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Stage 2:
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Stage 3
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Stage 4
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Stage 5
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Team Sky
1 FROOME Christopher
2 DEIGNAN Philip
3 ELISSONDE Kenny
4 DE LA CRUZ David
5 HENAO Sebastián
6 PUCCIO Salvatore
7 ROSA Diego

AG2R La Mondiale
11 MONTAGUTI Matteo
12 GENIEZ Alexandre
13 CHÉREL Mickaël
14 DUPONT Hubert
15 VENTURINI Clément
16 CHEVRIER Clément
17 JAUREGUI Quentin

Nippo - Vini Fantini - Europa Ovini
21 CUNEGO Damiano
22 BOU Joan
23 BAGIOLI Nicola
24 NAKANE Hideto
25 SANTAROMITA Ivan
26 ZACCANTI Filippo
27 ITO Masakazu

UAE-Team Emirates
31 ARU Fabio
32 CONTI Valerio
33 DURASEK Kristijan
34 LAENGEN Vegard Stake
35 NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
36 PETILLI Simone
37 RAVASI Edward

Italy
41 CONCI Nicola
42 AMICI Alberto
43 MONACO Alessandro
44 COVILI Luca
45 SOBRERO Matteo
46 BERNARDINETTI Marco
47 PICCOT Michel

Wilier Triestina - Selle Italia
51 BUSATO Matteo
52 FLOREZ Miguel Eduardo
53 MOSCA Jacopo
54 KOSHEVOY Ilia
55 VELASCO Simone
56 ZARDINI Edoardo
57 ZHUPA Eugert

Team Felbermayr - Simplon Wels
61 ZOIDL Riccardo
62 EIBEGGER Markus
63 FORTIN Filippo
64 KRIZEK Matthias
65 LEHNER Daniel
66 RABITSCH Stephan
67 SCHLEMMER Lukas

Astana Pro Team
71 LOPEZ Miguel Angel
72 BILBAO Pello
73 HIRT Jan
74 SANCHEZ Luis Leon
75 STALNOV Nikita
76 VILLELLA Davide
77 ZEITS Andrey

Euskadi - Murias
82 BIZKARRA Mikel
83 GONZALEZ Aitor
84 IRIZAR Julen
85 ITURRIA Mikel
86 SAMITIER Sergio
87 UDONDO Gotzon

Tirol Cycling Team
91 ADAMIETZ Johannes
92 BRKIC Benjamin
93 GAMPER Mario
94 SCHINNAGEL Johannes
95 FRIEDRICH Marco
96 ZIMMERMANN Georg
97 WILDAUER Markus

BORA - hansgrohe
101 GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
102 KOLAR Michael
103 SARAMOTINS Aleksejs
104 PELUCCHI Matteo
105 PFINGSTEN Christoph
106 PÖSTLBERGER Lukas
107 SCHWARZMANN Michael

Dimension Data
111 ANTON Igor
112 BERHANE Natnael
113 KUDUS Merhawi
114 MEINTJES Louis
115 MORTON Lachlan
116 O'CONNOR Ben
117 JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques

Androni - Sidermec - Bottecchia
121 BALLERINI Davide
122 CATTANEO Mattia
123 FRAPPORTI Marco
124 GAVAZZI Francesco
125 MASNADA Fausto
126 SOSA Ivan Ramiro
127 TORRES Rodolfo Andres

Team LottoNL-Jumbo
131 BATTAGLIN Enrico
132 BENNETT George
133 BOUWMAN Koen
134 EENKHOORN Pascal
135 KUSS Sepp
136 POWLESS Neilson
137 VAN HOECKE Gijs

Groupama - FDJ
141 PINOT Thibaut
142 BONNET William
143 LUDVIGSSON Tobias
144 MORABITO Steve
145 PREIDLER Georg
146 REICHENBACH Sebastien
147 ROY Jérémy

Bahrain Merida Pro Cycling Team
151 FENG Chun Kai
152 NIBALI Antonio
153 PADUN Mark
154 PIBERNIK Luka
155 POZZOVIVO Domenico
156 VISCONTI Giovanni
157 WANG Meiyin

Bardiani - CSF
161 ANDREETTA Simone
162 CARBONI Giovanni
163 CICCONE Giulio
164 ORSINI Umberto
165 ROTA Lorenzo
166 SENNI Manuel
167 STERBINI Simone

CCC Sprandi Polkowice
171 ANTUNES Amaro Manuel
172 BROŻYNA Piotr
173 OWSIAN Lukasz
174 PALUTA Michal
175 PLUCINSKI Leszek
176 SCHLEGEL Michal
177 STOSZ Patryk

Gazprom-RusVelo
181 FIRSANOV Sergey
182 FOLIFOROV Alexander
183 ARSLANOV Ildar
184 CHERKASOV Nicolay
185 ROVNY Ivan
186 RYBALKIN Aleksey
187 SHILOV Sergey

Israel Cycling Academy
191 AVILA Edwin
192 EARLE Nathan
193 HERMANS Ben
194 LEMUS Luis
195 NIV Guy
196 SAGIV Guy
197 TUREK Daniel
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13 Apr 2018 17:08

Giulio Ciccone will podium this bike race.
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13 Apr 2018 17:09

One of my favorite races on the calendar, a great route and an exciting field to look forward to. Lots of big names and young talent. Personally looking forward to see how Ivan Sosa will do.
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13 Apr 2018 17:25

Really looking forward to this race, with the best startlist ever maybe. Froome vs. Aru vs. Pinot vs. MAL vs. Pozzovivo for the second place. The great Amaro Antunes for the obvious win.
Riposa in pace, Michele!
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13 Apr 2018 17:31

that Olympia climb in last stage isnt the same of the World Championships?
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13 Apr 2018 17:41

Why doesn't Mitchelton-Scott go to this race?
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Giro del Trentino

13 Apr 2018 18:02

The climbs in this edition are wet farts. This route seems to be descent-heavy and the descents they've chosen look quite demanding. Plenty of 9-10% hidden in them.

Folgaria
Serrada is a visually stunning climb with a quite large backdrop in the first half but as a climb it's nothing amazing. At least they could use Sommo (it would be an MTF then). It's way harder than Serrada.
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Pampeago
The stage to Pampeago is... weird. For some reason it does an almost flat lap in Val di Fiemme. it's basically a Vuelta-esque murito finish. Sad, as Val di Fiemme has plenty of ore interesting places to choose and Pampeago itself can be reinforced. I guess it's a weather affected decision but Pampeago itself is nothing amazing.

Merano
And from here starts the descent-focused triptique. First is Merano after Mendola and Palade. Mendola is a 7% grind, which did some damage in 2016, but chances of repeating it are quite slim imo. Especially as Palade south is just a long false-flat. The descent to Merano is quite tricky though and if it's wet, then you can do some damage as i guess the majority of GC guys will be content to not risk any injuries before Giro. I may like this approach if there are some local guys capable of going for GC while not thinking much about Giro.
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Lienz
Lienz is similar to Merano. The climb to Bannberg from this side is nothing amazing. First 1,5km are at 10% (max 12%) but the rest is much easier. It may be enough for someone to try for a successful push, but considering the easier last kms i guess it'll be about the descent, which is very steep (5km at 10,5% with an entire 1km at 12,5%) and with some amount of turns. I don't know, how wide the descent is though.
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Descent:
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Innsbruck
Because of the laps in Innsbruck at least there's some climbing before the last climb... which is also nothing great. Once again the descent seems to be quite steep and there also seems to be a small part over some sort of a gorge. The road is quite wide though. It looks like a similar tale to Lienz.

How do i rate this race? I guess focusing on descents in a mainly preparatory race could be potentialy interesting. I guess the GC will be won either on Serrada/Pampeago unless someone want's to test his skills.
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Giro del Trentino

13 Apr 2018 18:31

I'm kinda afraid Froome will take the lead in the first or the 2nd stage and sky will completely kill the racing on the remaining stages.
Anyway, I like the route, although some stages could be a bit longer. And ofc I'm still waiting for a proper mountain stage in Austria despite this being a half Austrian race for the 2nd year.
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13 Apr 2018 18:47

No kevin Rivera on de startlist (yet) :(
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Giro del Trentino

13 Apr 2018 18:57

Gigs_98 wrote:I'm kinda afraid Froome will take the lead in the first or the 2nd stage and sky will completely kill the racing on the remaining stages.
Anyway, I like the route, although some stages could be a bit longer. And ofc I'm still waiting for a proper mountain stage in Austria despite this being a half Austrian race for the 2nd year.

I have a feeling that objectively it's a horrible route but it may benefit from it being a prep race in some scenarios. I don't know if (just!) Serrada and Pampeago are enough for Froome to kill the race. I hope that these quite lacklustre climbs won't generate much which will give those descent stages a lil' bit of oomph. I don't think Froome and majority of other GC guys, who are targeting Giro will go daredevil on the descents and with these gradients some outsider may try to do some damage (they could be a ll' bit more technical though). The lesser impact first 2 stages have then i guess the better chances for an outsider to try and win it.

What i would like to see is (if the weather will help) combo of Silzer Sattel (roughly 10km at 10% with 5km at 11,5%) followed by Kühtai Sattel (a more irregular Aprica-type climb). Maybe throw in (if it's not too far away) Pillerhöhe (7,5km at 9,5%) before that. It's not amazing as there's quite a lot of ground between the top of Kühtai and Innsbruck (majority of it is a descent) but it's just something i would like to see.

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Below is a mock-up of a potential stage i've mentioned above. I've used TdF categorisation for comparison. I've counted only the 12% ramp for the first climb. The stage uses only the last roughly 8km of Kühtai Sattel.
https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/206237
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Re:

13 Apr 2018 19:06

Ruudz0r wrote:No kevin Rivera on de startlist (yet) :(

Yeah, I'm quite curious what he is going to race. The Giro is three weeks away and he has only 19 days of racing.
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Giro del Trentino

13 Apr 2018 19:26

Gigs_98 wrote:I'm kinda afraid Froome will take the lead in the first or the 2nd stage and sky will completely kill the racing on the remaining stages.
Anyway, I like the route, although some stages could be a bit longer. And ofc I'm still waiting for a proper mountain stage in Austria despite this being a half Austrian race for the 2nd year.


Nobody will kill anything (or anybody..) but yes, I hope you are right.
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13 Apr 2018 19:32

It's half Tyrolian, not half Austrian. ;)
It looks like I won't be able to watch the race on the road, that sucks a bit.
Last year I was there at the start of stage 3, i saw all the big names and talked with Pozzoviv (and Warbasse) before the start.
Scarponi was standing 2-3m away from me and 3 days later he was gone.
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13 Apr 2018 21:10

DNP-Old wrote:
Ruudz0r wrote:No kevin Rivera on de startlist (yet) :(

Yeah, I'm quite curious what he is going to race. The Giro is three weeks away and he has only 19 days of racing.

He'll race Toor du Jura and it looks like he won't be at the Giro - http://crciclismo.com/2018/04/13/kevin-rivera-listo-para-el-tour-de-jura-en-francia/
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13 Apr 2018 21:46

I see a fight between the little prince, Rovny and Froomey.
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13 Apr 2018 21:47

Dazed and Confused wrote:I see a fight between the little prince, Rovny and Froomey.


Cunego stopped being relevant the moment he stopped taking...

Oh wait, this is not the clinic, my bad.
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13 Apr 2018 23:01

And when did he stop being relevant, in your opinion?
Goodbye, Tommeke; thank you for all you have given us!
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13 Apr 2018 23:19

Cunego faded after Varese 2008. He did something until 2011, then stopped being relevant.
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13 Apr 2018 23:44

Cunego won 2 stages at the 2009 Vuelta in impressive fashion and would've finished inside the top 10 in front of a certain Richie Porte at the 2010 Giro if not for that 15 minutes breakaway. This kicked of some little resurrection, as the little prince nearly won the 2011 Tour of Switzerland and was very prominent at the 2012 Giro where Cunego in fact was the most aggressive favorite. It was after 2012 where his performance wouldn't fluctuate anymore but become quite average. Although he looked surprisingly strong in the first mountain stages of the 2015 Giro before he fell ill. In 2016 however his climbing was pretty mediocre at beste and once Nieve set his sights on the mountains jersey, Cunego was without chance. Although that was only on the Cima Coppi were Sky played their power to reel back in Cunego. But he won way too little points in the Dolomites, because he couldn't stay off the front for longer.

I don't see Cunego being much of a factor here tbh. I expect him to go for the KOM classification at the Tour of Switzerland later this year.
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14 Apr 2018 05:19

El Pistolero wrote:
Dazed and Confused wrote:I see a fight between the little prince, Rovny and Froomey.


Cunego stopped being relevant the moment he stopped taking...

Oh wait, this is not the clinic, my bad.


The Giro win at such a young age will always viewed in many different ways ! And he was great in the Ardennes races for a few seasons as well but once his FORM went over the cliff he never did much. To be fair he also had a lot of bad luck with crashes in the second half of his career, some pretty bad. To me he was more of a hill specialist than a GT rider but the record books show his Giro win ! Also some great performances in the TDS. Gutsy ride in the 2011 Tour after his glory days were over.
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