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14 Apr 2018 17:14

GP Blanco wrote:
staubsauger wrote:According to the start list apparently Igor Anton leads Dimension Date at the Tour of the Alps and the Giro!?


Maybe just alphabetical order.

Gosh, should've been able to figure that one out myself!
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Giro del Trentino

14 Apr 2018 18:04

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Gigs_98 wrote:I know everyone hates the new name, but I think people should get over it and call the race like it's called. The race isn't a race completely taking place in trentino anymore so of course the name was changed, and although tour of the alps isn't a great name, still using the old name and refusing to use the new one is just childish. If Paris Nice gets a new finish in Monaco and gets renamed Paris-Monaco would you still call it Paris-Nice?

While I get your point, the example you use isn't the best because i would still call it paris-nice, as would many (most) others.

But, on the other hand, most people call races by their geographically wrong name. Paris-Tours starts 50km away from paris, Paris-Roubaix 80km, Paris-Camembert 50km away from Paris - it doesn't even finish in Camembert, and we call amstel 'ardennes' even though it is in a different country to it. The correct name would be tyrol, but trentino is more accurate than tour of the alps, geographically speaking, as 90% of the alps isn't 'toured'.

Yeah, but despite not starting in Paris, the race is still called Paris-Roubaix, so we use the official name. If we call this race giro del trentino, it's both geographically incorrect and not the real name

Yeah but the official name of the Tour of Yorkshire is the Tour de Yorkshire and I categorically completely refuse to ever call it that. I'll call this tyrol and sometimes trentino when i forget it's changed, but tour of the alps is a really wank name
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14 Apr 2018 21:17

Tour of the alps is a bland sort of facebook type name, besides Trento is one of my favorite places in Italy.
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15 Apr 2018 06:09

Plus the Alps stretch ~1,200 kilometres across eight countries
so it is a daft label to give to this highly localised race.
It's a marketing department fantasy.
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15 Apr 2018 06:19

TourOfSardinia wrote:Plus the Alps stretch ~1,200 kilometres across eight countries
so it is a daft label to give to this highly localised race.
It's a marketing department fantasy.


No doubt marketing departments over achieve most of the time.............
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15 Apr 2018 13:22

movingtarget wrote:
TourOfSardinia wrote:Plus the Alps stretch ~1,200 kilometres across eight countries
so it is a daft label to give to this highly localised race.
It's a marketing department fantasy.


No doubt marketing departments over achieve most of the time.............

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15 Apr 2018 17:47

They can't really call it Dolomites Tour either since the Tyrolean mountains doesn't even belong to the Lienzer Dolomites.

Giro del Trentino-(Sud) Tirolo sounds a bit stupid and you can't expect the Italians to use the old Austrian name Welschtyrol for their race either.
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15 Apr 2018 19:15

Why not just Giro del Tirolo?
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15 Apr 2018 19:22

Trentino historically only ever was Welschtyrol back when it was part of Austria-Hungary. While they still drink Forst instead of Moretti beer there and eat Knodel , I don't think they'd be happy to have their race named like that.
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15 Apr 2018 19:51

George Bennett will win this bike race.
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15 Apr 2018 20:07

Maaaaaaaarten wrote:George Bennett will win this bike race.

Domenico Pozzovivo and Amaro Antunes disagree.
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Giro del Trentino

16 Apr 2018 01:06

The first objective for Tibopino, the test before Il Giro, and with that new schedule, I am very apprehensive. Last year, Thibaut was great at Trentino (I hate the Alps name). '18 Froome sucks but he's a man of many miracles. This will be an interesting race: I just don't now what to expect.
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16 Apr 2018 05:43

We should find out sometime this week how much the investigation has effected the Dawg's training. Come on #71 Miguel Angel Lopez!

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16 Apr 2018 08:37

Mark Padun for the win!
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Tour of the Alps (Giro del Trentino)

16 Apr 2018 09:00

If Bilbao and Visconti can't hang on on the last climb, the favourite should be Pinot in a small group sprint. Or maybe also a finisseur in the last km.
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Tour of the Alps (Giro del Trentino)

16 Apr 2018 09:07

Laplaz wrote:If Bilbao and Visconti can't hang on on the last climb, the favourite should be Pinot in a small group sprint. Or maybe also a finisseur in the last km.

I agree, even though Pinot has been very unconvincing this spring. Depending on his shape, Froome could also do something in a small group sprint. It looks like a small ramp in the end.
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16 Apr 2018 09:15

Last 800 m today -
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Edit - add - Roadbook with all info, tourist info etc at
https://tourofthealps.eu/en/roadbook
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16 Apr 2018 09:47

Curious to see how Froome has improved (or not) since TA and if MAL and Pinault could be a real danger this year in the Giro..
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16 Apr 2018 10:27

Lexman wrote:Curious to see how Froome has improved (or not) since TA and if MAL and Pinault could be a real danger this year in the Giro..

MAL should be a big danger. His Vuelta showed how great his climbing is, and it was super obvious that he came in on a very small base, which is why he faded in the end.
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Re: 16/04 - 20/04: Giro del Trentino

16 Apr 2018 11:59

Tonton wrote:The first objective for Tibopino, the test before Il Giro, and with that new schedule, I am very apprehensive. Last year, Thibaut was great at Trentino (I hate the Alps name). '18 Froome sucks but he's a man of many miracles. This will be an interesting race: I just don't now what to expect.


I fear that Froome will return to form as it's getting closer and closer to the Giro and he needs to be showing some type of progress in his preparations. He will likely win a couple of stages, one convincingly and take the overall. Aru I can't see really challenging him with the problems and interruptions he's had this year. I don't see anyone else capable of rising to the challenge unless Lopez reaches the level of performance equal to the hype.
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