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26 Jun 2018 19:50

Well it's better for him to move to a rank where he has serious competition. Because otherwise he'll never learn how to stay in a peloton, conserve energy, position in the peloton and learn racing tactics.
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26 Jun 2018 22:51

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Well it's better for him to move to a rank where he has serious competition. Because otherwise he'll never learn how to stay in a peloton, conserve energy, position in the peloton and learn racing tactics.

I'm mainly worried about his bike handling skills. He started racing when he was 17, and he never had to really learn because he is going solo every race at the Juniors. I remember hearing that he crashed already a couple of times, blaming the guys around him in the peloton. Though it's more likely the other way around.

If he really wants to become a GT contender, he'll need to learn to conserve energy sooner or later, and he'll need to stay in formation for most of the race. So unless he wants to crash out every time, it seems instrumental for his further development.
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29 Jun 2018 12:36

Looks like he won't be granted dispensation after all and has to finish the year as a Junior

Het hing al een tijdje in de lucht, maar sinds gisteren is het eindelijk officieel: supertalent Remco Eve­nepoel (18) wordt vanaf 1 januari 2019 prof bij Hagens Berman­Axeon, het Amerikaanse team van Axel Merckx. Hij zal ook beloftenwedstrijden rijden met het Belgische nationale team. Vanaf 2020 maakt hij dan de overstap naar Team Quick Step. “Iedereen helpt mee om zijn carrière zo goed mogelijk uit te stippelen”, aldus vader Patrick.

De nieuwe Merckx wordt Remco Evenepoel wel eens genoemd. De 18-jarige renner uit Schepdaal stopte vorig jaar met voetballen bij RSC Anderlecht en koos voor het wielrennen. Hij verbaasde meteen de wielerwereld met zijn prestaties. Dit seizoen, als tweedejaarsjunior, overklast hij de tegenstand. Dit weekend was zijn voorsprong in een koers in Roosdaal zelfs zo groot dat de wedstrijd moest worden ingekort om de veiligheid te garanderen.

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Vandaar dat Evenepoel al vanaf 1 augustus graag zou overstappen naar de beloften om in die categorie dan het WK in Innsbruck te betwisten op 28 september. Maar het ziet ernaar uit dat hij een dag vroeger zal moeten starten, bij de junioren. “De UCI moet een uitzondering toestaan om Remco eerder te laten overstappen”, zegt vader Patrick Evenepoel. “Ze hebben mij gemaild dat ze de zaak gaan bekijken. We zien wel, maar de kans dat dit opnieuw gebeurt, is klein. Tja, reglementen zijn er om gerespecteerd te worden, we moeten ons daar bij neerleggen. Het ziet ernaar uit dat hij het seizoen gewoon uitdoet bij de junioren, ook al is hij klaar om bij de beloften te koersen.”

Wat wel een zekerheid is: Evenepoel wordt sowieso prof op 1 januari 2019. “Hij tekent bij Hagens Berman-Axeon, de Amerikaanse professioneel continentale ploeg van Axel Merckx”, zegt Patrick. “We zaten ook samen met de Belgische wielerbond, die Remco zal helpen om zijn carrière de komende jaren te helpen uitbouwen. In het team van Axel zal hij vooral rondes rijden, om zijn tijdrijden en klimmen verder te ontwikkelen. En hij zal ook beloftenwedstrijden betwisten met de Belgische selectie, zoals de Ronde van de Toekomst. De wielerbond zal daarover overleggen met Axel. Het is dus een beetje naar het voorbeeld van Jasper Philipsen dit jaar, maar het is niet de bedoeling dat Remco al grote voorjaarsklassiekers rijdt.”

Frederik Broché, technisch directeur van de wielerbond, zal ook samenzitten met Fred Vandervennet, de huidige coach van Evenepoel, om hem verder te begeleiden. “Ook bondscoaches Carlo Bomans en Kevin De Weert waren aanwezig bij dat gesprek”, zegt Patrick. “Iedereen helpt mee om de carrière van Remco uit te stippelen.”

Als Evenepoel ook volgend seizoen goed presteert, staat hem in 2020 een overgang naar het grote Quick Step Floors te wachten. “We hebben een mondelinge overeenkomst met Patrick Lefevere”, zegt vader Evenepoel. “Dat betekent dan wel dat hij vanaf dan geen beloftenkoersen meer kan rijden, uitgezonderd het WK.”

Sportpsychologie
Evenepoel ging al mee op stage met de renners van Quick Step Floors en was enorm onder de indruk. Na een gesprek met Patrick Lefevere bleek al snel dat hij zo snel mogelijk voor zijn droomploeg wou rijden. Lefevere heeft geen opleidingsploeg meer, maar heeft een goede verstandhouding met het team van Axel Merckx. Vandaar de keuze om eerst een jaartje bij Hagens Berman-Axeon te rijden.

Het gaat dus bijzonder snel voor Evenepoel. “Er komt veel op ons af, maar we hebben er vertrouwen in dat we samen met Patrick Lefevere, Axel Merckx en de Belgische wielerbond de ideale weg kunnen uitstippelen voor Remco. Ik sta er ook op dat hij verder studeert. Hij zit nu in zijn eerste jaar sportpsychologie. Hij doet dat via zelfstudie, maar hij kan ook online hulp vragen aan zijn leerkrachten. Hij doet zijn examens op het einde van het jaar. Het is een studierichting van drie jaar aan de hogeschool, maar hij zal het spreiden over vijf jaar. Het is belangrijk voor hem dat er meer is dan alleen maar koers. Renners als Tiesj Benoot en Laurens De Plus hebben bewezen dat de combinatie studeren en koersen best mogelijk is.”


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30 Jun 2018 10:35

DNP-Old wrote:Looks like he won't be granted dispensation after all and has to finish the year as a Junior


One has to wonder why one guy is granted dispensation, and another one isn't.
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30 Jun 2018 11:47

Logic-is-your-friend wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Looks like he won't be granted dispensation after all and has to finish the year as a Junior


One has to wonder why one guy is granted dispensation, and another one isn't.


Which other guy? Pidcock? He was never granted dispensation by the UCI although he was able to ride national elite races in GB as junior. But this is quite common on the national amateur level. Brandon McNulty nearly won the San Dimas Stage Race back in 2016 while in his early second junior year.

But I've never heard of a junior rider being given general permission by the UCI to ride elite UCI races, although junior riders sometimes participate in UCI elite events in exotic counties.
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30 Jun 2018 15:09

Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:
Logic-is-your-friend wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Looks like he won't be granted dispensation after all and has to finish the year as a Junior


One has to wonder why one guy is granted dispensation, and another one isn't.


Which other guy? Pidcock? He was never granted dispensation by the UCI although he was able to ride national elite races in GB as junior. But this is quite common on the national amateur level. Brandon McNulty nearly won the San Dimas Stage Race back in 2016 while in his early second junior year.

But I've never heard of a junior rider being given general permission by the UCI to ride elite UCI races, although junior riders sometimes participate in UCI elite events in exotic counties.

No dispensations were given to Pidcock as he only road elite national A crits (national crit series, national crit champs and tour series) which juniors can do. However he never road national A road races as according to BC rules no junior is allowed to do those.
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01 Jul 2018 00:34

The source for Pidcock getting some sort of dispensation, is the article i posted on the last page. Sorry if the journo got that wrong, but i didn't pull it out of my rear.
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04 Jul 2018 16:28

Apparently they had to take the entire peloton out of the race because he lapped them on the local round in the Condroz, lol.
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Logic-is-your-friend wrote:Apparently they had to take the entire peloton out of the race because he lapped them on the local round in the Condroz, lol.

One has to wonder whether he is riding on rancour right now, after being denied dispensation.
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05 Jul 2018 07:55

Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:
Logic-is-your-friend wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Looks like he won't be granted dispensation after all and has to finish the year as a Junior


One has to wonder why one guy is granted dispensation, and another one isn't.


Which other guy? Pidcock? He was never granted dispensation by the UCI although he was able to ride national elite races in GB as junior. But this is quite common on the national amateur level. Brandon McNulty nearly won the San Dimas Stage Race back in 2016 while in his early second junior year.

But I've never heard of a junior rider being given general permission by the UCI to ride elite UCI races, although junior riders sometimes participate in UCI elite events in exotic counties.


Please do Define Exotic countries.
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05 Jul 2018 11:18

He is going to Quickstep. He told it on his Instagram.
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05 Jul 2018 12:18

mosh1992 wrote:
Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:
Which other guy? Pidcock? He was never granted dispensation by the UCI although he was able to ride national elite races in GB as junior. But this is quite common on the national amateur level. Brandon McNulty nearly won the San Dimas Stage Race back in 2016 while in his early second junior year.

But I've never heard of a junior rider being given general permission by the UCI to ride elite UCI races, although junior riders sometimes participate in UCI elite events in exotic counties.


Please do Define Exotic countries.


I had New Zealand in mind. :o

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=15791&year=2009&all=1&current=0
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05 Jul 2018 15:32

mosh1992 wrote:
Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:
Logic-is-your-friend wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Looks like he won't be granted dispensation after all and has to finish the year as a Junior


One has to wonder why one guy is granted dispensation, and another one isn't.


Which other guy? Pidcock? He was never granted dispensation by the UCI although he was able to ride national elite races in GB as junior. But this is quite common on the national amateur level. Brandon McNulty nearly won the San Dimas Stage Race back in 2016 while in his early second junior year.

But I've never heard of a junior rider being given general permission by the UCI to ride elite UCI races, although junior riders sometimes participate in UCI elite events in exotic counties.


Please do Define Exotic countries.


In a European sport, a non European country would be quite exotic! More generally 3rd world countries would be exotic for someone from the developed world as it’s quite different, and vice versa I would assume.
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07 Jul 2018 19:53

Only 2 minutes? Pathetic.
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07 Jul 2018 20:51

classicomano wrote:Only 2 minutes? Pathetic.

Clearly over his peak...
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08 Jul 2018 15:39

Petrucci the new Evenepoel
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08 Jul 2018 23:52

Clearly a freakishly precocious talent. Quite unfair for the rest of the world that he is Belgian as they already enjoy plenty of road racing glory! I have to wonder what odds you might be able to get on him emulating the achievements of Matej Mohoric in winning the juniors and under 23 worlds back to back. Never had chance to see him race but looking forward to the junior world road race to see what he has got.
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