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17 Jun 2018 14:23

Who was the genius who said Quintana would lose 2 minutes to Oomen? 16 seconds btw
Riposa in pace, Michele!
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17 Jun 2018 14:23

Fact that 3 sunweb riders did a better than Kelderman really tells a lot. I'm really not sure if he is ready for the Tour. With that arm problem in a nervous Tour peloton...
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17 Jun 2018 14:23

Very good showing from BMC.
Porte in fine form, just like the rest of the team.
Would be a real shame not to keep them together for the next season(s). They've presented themselves nicely.
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17 Jun 2018 14:25

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:Expected Kelderman to be far, far stronger.
Not a good performance

He was shaking his right arm, he has nerve damage there. I suspect that is still bothering him a lot in TT. So there is a good explanation of this.

Oh...okay.
I hope he gets that sorted before the TdF.
Not a good sign tbh.
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
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17 Jun 2018 14:25

Well done Ritchie Porte and Stefan Kung. Good day for BMC on the sponsors home soil.

And Fuglsang too, jumped up to 2nd.
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17 Jun 2018 14:26

quintana lost 55 seconds to porte on a flat tt...not bad
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17 Jun 2018 14:26

Horrible from Landa and quite bad from Quintana.

Another discipline (with cobbles, wind, sprinting, positioning and hilly finishes as others) where Valverde will be much, much better than his two co-captains.

But to be fair, Quintana did impress two days ago.

Valverde, though, hasn't yet met someone stronger than him in a mountain stage this year, and I don't see why he shouldn't have his normal level in the Tour.

Just don't make him work for the two others, that's all I'm asking.
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17 Jun 2018 14:27

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:And co-leader of Movistar Landa out of the top 10. LMAO

Landa will never win a GT unless they have NO TT kilometres in it or only a MTT. He is so piss poor at time trialling it's hilarious

His climbing isnt superior to anyone either. He's a middle of the pack climber with little/no tactical sense as seen in the 2 mountain stages.
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
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Re: Tour de Suisse (2.UWT), 9-17 June 2018

17 Jun 2018 14:27

bravo Richie! bravo TJ! bravo BMC!
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17 Jun 2018 14:28

silvergrenade wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:Expected Kelderman to be far, far stronger.
Not a good performance

He was shaking his right arm, he has nerve damage there. I suspect that is still bothering him a lot in TT. So there is a good explanation of this.

Oh...okay.
I hope he gets that sorted before the TdF.
Not a good sign tbh.

Nope, definitely not. He said he still had some prickly feelings. But during the TT it was really obvious when he started shaking his right arm.

Good thing the Tour only has the TTT and one ITT. So in support of Dumoulin it should be ok.
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17 Jun 2018 14:29

capuldemetal wrote:quintana lost 55 seconds to porte on a flat tt...not bad

I don't agree.

Porte is not a flat TT specialist either. Porte best TT results come from hilly or mountain ITT's. Porte has had some horrible TT performances in flat TT in the past too.
I'd say it's a normal TT of Quintana, but not good enough when it comes to comparisons with the TDF.
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17 Jun 2018 14:30

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Fact that 3 sunweb riders did a better than Kelderman really tells a lot. I'm really not sure if he is ready for the Tour. With that arm problem in a nervous Tour peloton...

Don't worry, Big Tom will be back.
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17 Jun 2018 14:30

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:Expected Kelderman to be far, far stronger.
Not a good performance

He was shaking his right arm, he has nerve damage there. I suspect that is still bothering him a lot in TT. So there is a good explanation of this.

Oh...okay.
I hope he gets that sorted before the TdF.
Not a good sign tbh.

Nope, definitely not. He said he still had some prickly feelings. But during the TT it was really obvious when he started shaking his right arm.

Good thing the Tour only has the TTT and one ITT. So in support of Dumoulin it should be ok.

Ohh...damn.
I thought he was going in as co-leader.
Is sunweb going with only one leader ie Domoulin? Wow.
They must have real confidence in Tom's recuperation abilities.
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
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17 Jun 2018 14:35

All in all, only one conclusion can be drawn from this race:

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17 Jun 2018 14:35

The Blues wrote:Remarkably strong performance by Fuglsang. If he can finally combine his best climbing legs with his best time trial in the Tour, the podium is definitely not out of reach with this route. Astana just needs a noticeably better TTT.


He is looking good at the right time like last year.
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17 Jun 2018 14:36

sir fly wrote:Very good showing from BMC.
Porte in fine form, just like the rest of the team.
Would be a real shame not to keep them together for the next season(s). They've presented themselves nicely.



I worry about the team tbh

Kung & GVA are great but climbers not there long enough....TJ ddint last long and de Marchi looked tired
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Re: Tour de Suisse (2.UWT), 9-17 June 2018

17 Jun 2018 14:38

pastronef wrote:bravo Richie! bravo TJ! bravo BMC!


BMC are going to have a serious TTT team.
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17 Jun 2018 14:42

DNP-Old wrote:All in all, only one conclusion can be drawn from this race:

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indeed, but at least he will potentially get great support in the mountains.
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17 Jun 2018 14:47

tobydawq wrote:Horrible from Landa and quite bad from Quintana.

Another discipline (with cobbles, wind, sprinting, positioning and hilly finishes as others) where Valverde will be much, much better than his two co-captains.

But to be fair, Quintana did impress two days ago.

Valverde, though, hasn't yet met someone stronger than him in a mountain stage this year, and I don't see why he shouldn't have his normal level in the Tour.

Just don't make him work for the two others, that's all I'm asking.


He won't work till the mountains, and even then he'll go on attack I reckon, to put the pressure on Sky and whoever... He'll work for the other two only if he lose serious amount of time. He'll ride without any kind of pressure, and imo something special might happen because of that.
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17 Jun 2018 14:55

Laplaz wrote:Who was the genius who said Quintana would lose 2 minutes to Oomen? 16 seconds btw


Who was the genius that said Fuglsang can’t TT? ;)
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