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Speed Gel

11 Jun 2018 12:16

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lotto-soudal-query-uci-decision-to-ban-speed-gel/
Lotto Soudal manager Marc Sergeant has questioned the UCI’s decision to ban the so-called ‘speed gel’ that the team used during the team and individual time trials at the Criterium du Dauphine last week. Sergeant likened the gel, which leaves deposits of small ‘washing powder’ balls on the riders' legs, to the dimple inserts used by Team Sky in their skinsuits.

The odd-looking gel was visible on the legs of the riders during the prologue and team time trial during last week’s Dauphine but was notable in its absence in the opening team chrono at the Tour de Suisse. The gel is sprayed onto the legs and leaves the washing powder ball-like deposits, which are meant to reduce drag on the leg. It is also said to help with cooling.

“I received a call from Jean-Christophé Péraud, the UCI Materials and Equipment manager,” Sergeant told Het Nieuwsblad. “He told me that it is not allowed, that they will investigate the matter and that the regulations – with the Tour at the door – will be adjusted in the coming weeks.


Should this be allowed and does it help?
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11 Jun 2018 12:40

There's a very obvious joke here...

I'm moving this to the PRR forum as it isn't about doping.
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11 Jun 2018 13:14

I'm intrigued to as why this gel is not allowed but the sky-skinsuits are?
They're basically the same only that in the skinsuits its embedded in the fabric...
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11 Jun 2018 13:15

GenericBoonenFan wrote:I'm intrigued to as why this gel is not allowed but the sky-skinsuits are?
They're basically the same only that in the skinsuits its embedded in the fabric...


You've answered your own questions there!
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11 Jun 2018 13:17

King Boonen wrote:
GenericBoonenFan wrote:I'm intrigued to as why this gel is not allowed but the sky-skinsuits are?
They're basically the same only that in the skinsuits its embedded in the fabric...


You've answered your own questions there!

Is there a specific rule I'm forgetting about or is this another "let's-not-piss-of-the-guys-with-the-most-money" scenario?
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11 Jun 2018 13:20

GenericBoonenFan wrote:
King Boonen wrote:
GenericBoonenFan wrote:I'm intrigued to as why this gel is not allowed but the sky-skinsuits are?
They're basically the same only that in the skinsuits its embedded in the fabric...


You've answered your own questions there!

Is there a specific rule I'm forgetting about or is this another "let's-not-piss-of-the-guys-with-the-most-money" scenario?


Basically you can't add things just to make yourself more aero, they have to be integral to the material.

Lets not forget that Movistar were using drag-reducing suits before Sky were.
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11 Jun 2018 13:28

King Boonen wrote:There's a very obvious joke here...

I'm moving this to the PRR forum as it isn't about doping.


I thought as it was banned it should go in the "naughty" section - thanks for moving though! (joke about faster not always being better, I suppose? :))
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11 Jun 2018 13:30

Robert5091 wrote:
King Boonen wrote:There's a very obvious joke here...

I'm moving this to the PRR forum as it isn't about doping.


I thought as it was banned it should go in the "naughty" section - thanks for moving though! (joke about faster not always being better, I suppose? :))


I think it's ok here as it isn't something they're trying to hide so not the same as doping and motors. It'll probably get more discussion here too.

Along the lines of there being gels that apparently do the opposite...
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11 Jun 2018 14:18

They should go the extra mile and ban shaved legs as well.
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11 Jun 2018 14:39

GenericBoonenFan wrote:I'm intrigued to as why this gel is not allowed but the sky-skinsuits are?
They're basically the same only that in the skinsuits its embedded in the fabric...

Movistar found an even more subtle way:
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11 Jun 2018 15:29

Before these you had the bodypaint textured arms and torso doing the same thing. Obviously for years many riders used bioracer/nopinz speedsuits with the ribbing down the arms roughing the airflow for some marginal advantage.
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11 Jun 2018 15:54

As I understand it, extraneous items can be used so long as it is not only for aerodynamic advantage. So if they claim it makes their legs more comfortable (purely a perception, so cannot be disproved) it is not prohibited.
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12 Jun 2018 14:34

Kits come to just above the knee and shoe covers come nearly to the knee so the gel must be to smooth the slow of air over the patella. Just put sun block in it and its legal.
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12 Jun 2018 17:33

wouterkaas wrote:
GenericBoonenFan wrote:I'm intrigued to as why this gel is not allowed but the sky-skinsuits are?
They're basically the same only that in the skinsuits its embedded in the fabric...

Movistar found an even more subtle way:
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but that's not sky so folk aren't interested
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13 Jun 2018 08:58

This is what it looked like. I'm not sure if I'm going to miss this from an esthetic point of view.

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