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12 Jul 2018 16:16

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ppanther92 wrote:
Brullnux wrote:So now for GC-ish candidates it's:
Thomas
TJ 3"
Jungels 15"
Uran 42"
Bala 48"
Majka 49"
Fugslang and Porte 50"
Landa 55"
Froome and Yates 59"
Dumoulin 1:00
Nibali 1:05
Roglic 1:14
Quintana 2:07


TJ in but no Bardet? :D


Dan Martin was 6th in th Tour last year riding with injury
And we can see how strong he is today and yet you leave him out

Usual rubbish bias ...

Several guys missing. Bardet, Martin, Zaka, Mollema...I wouldn't take it so personally, probably just an oversight.

Yeah literally just an oversight, it was very quickly done
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12 Jul 2018 16:27

20secs for Tom
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
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12 Jul 2018 16:28

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Laplaz wrote:How much time Froome lost?

Few seconds

Froome lets Thomas worry about seconds
He's probably thinking about minutes himself

He’s going to pull out aNother Chiappucci-like attack (I guess I cant say a Landis in this section of the forum). What an amazing rider he is :cry:

Why would Chiappucci be permissible but Landis objectionable?

No E.T. talks here
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12 Jul 2018 16:29

Okay upon rewatching, Bala actually did an amazing sprint but was absolutely horribly positioned when Martin attacked. So he probably couldn't have gotten more out of it than that.

He actually made the competition look very mediocre. 500 metres to go he is behind Fuglsang in about 20th position, then he sprints past everybody, almost creating a big enough gap to gain a second.
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12 Jul 2018 16:31

tobydawq wrote:Okay upon rewatching, Bala actually did an amazing sprint but was absolutely horribly positioned when Martin attacked. So he probably couldn't have gotten more out of it than that.

He actually made the competition look very mediocre. 500 metres to go he is behind Fuglsang in about 20th position, then he sprints past everybody, almost creating a big enough gap to gain a second.

Yeah I was too harsh on him, I didnt notice where he was coming from. Its just that sometimes he just seems on another level in these sprints and can gap people.

Too bad. Would have loved a stage win, but legs seem great.
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12 Jul 2018 16:32

ok I'm out. Going to burn some french flags.. ridicolous time penalty ****
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12 Jul 2018 16:32

Nice to see Martin get the timing right for once on one of these finishes! Usually he's the one in the Latour punching-the-handlebars position.
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12 Jul 2018 16:33

Valv.Piti wrote:
tobydawq wrote:Okay upon rewatching, Bala actually did an amazing sprint but was absolutely horribly positioned when Martin attacked. So he probably couldn't have gotten more out of it than that.

He actually made the competition look very mediocre. 500 metres to go he is behind Fuglsang in about 20th position, then he sprints past everybody, almost creating a big enough gap to gain a second.

Yeah I was too harsh on him, I didnt notice where he was coming from. Its just that sometimes he just seems on another level in these sprints and can gap people.

Too bad. Would have loved a stage win, but legs seem great.


It was a rewind of the Cauberg worlds. Still a nightmare of mine.
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12 Jul 2018 16:34

So a 20 second penalty for Dumoulin, but nothing for Fuglsang? The latter's car-drafting was almost as bad. They should both have been penalized.
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12 Jul 2018 16:35

Imagine if Landa or Quintana would have tried to help Valverde. Not blaming them, its very possible they didnt have anything left, but Richie buried himself for GVA (or was it TJ?).

Fair time penalty btw
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12 Jul 2018 16:37

Red Rick wrote:
Laplaz wrote:How much time Froome lost?

Few seconds

Froome lets Thomas worry about seconds
He's probably thinking about minutes himself


:lol:
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12 Jul 2018 16:38

Yeah, penalising Dumoulin but not Fuglsang is ridiculous. Either they are both penalties, or neither are.
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12 Jul 2018 16:39

Valv.Piti wrote:Imagine if Landa or Quintana would have tried to help Valverde. Not blaming them, its very possible they didnt have anything left, but Richie buried himself for GVA (or was it TJ?).

Fair time penalty btw


I doubt if they could have done much for him. He’s hardly going to rely on them to position him on a Mur and they aren’t going to chase Martin down any more effectively than Yates and Porte.
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12 Jul 2018 16:42

I'm surprised anyone thought Sagan was a contender for this stage. Can't imagine him having any response for an attack such as Martin's on those gradients
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12 Jul 2018 16:44

Amazinmets87 wrote:I'm surprised anyone thought Sagan was a contender for this stage. Can't imagine him any response for an attack such as Martin's on those gradients


I think he could have won or been close if Martin hadn't attacked. That would have made it all a bit slower and Majka would perhaps have controlled it for him.

But Valverde would probably have beaten him (and Martin too).
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12 Jul 2018 16:45

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Zinoviev Letter wrote:UAE’s season not looking too bad now. Six wins in the last five weeks including Martin’s Tour and Dauphine stages and Ulissi’s Susie’s stage.

Its still remarkable how weak the team they’ve sent to support Martin and Kristoff is though. What they are spending their budget on is a mystery on the same scale as Katusha and Cofidis spending decisions.


Maybe they have the best hotels and a celebrity chef ?

They have zipless jerseys this year. I think that must be it, but the traditionalist in me is screaming as I type.
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12 Jul 2018 16:49

I watched last km again and i am amazed by Mollema. He was too far behind so someone could thought he would lose seconds but actually he came 7th without problems.
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12 Jul 2018 16:50

Nice to see something working for Martin this year
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12 Jul 2018 16:51

GC who gained/lost time to main pack

Martin: -13
Valverde: -4
Thomas -2
TJ: +3
Froome: +5
Uran: +8
Jungles: +9
Zakarin: +9
Kruijswijk: +9
Bernal: +9
Bardet: +28
Dumoulin: +1:10
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12 Jul 2018 16:53

Amazinmets87 wrote:I'm surprised anyone thought Sagan was a contender for this stage. Can't imagine him having any response for an attack such as Martin's on those gradients


Finishing top ten was a very good ride. He is at least a dozen kg heavier than anyone else in the top ten and probably much more. But yes, there’s a big gap between making the front group and actually being able to compete with the best in it. If Martin hadn’t attacked, some other climber/puncheur would have and even if by some miracle nobody did, he’s not going to win a sprint in those circumstances.
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