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12 Jul 2018 15:50

Valverde didnt have the best of legs. His sprint was pretty meh despite winning in the group, he didn't have what it took to beat Martin today I think.
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12 Jul 2018 15:51

Scarponi wrote:That was boring

Much less boring than the usual Mur de Bretagne finish
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12 Jul 2018 15:51

A fantastic reward for a brave ride by Martin - Chapeau!
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12 Jul 2018 15:51

Dumoulin now one second behind Froome.

Landa shown finishing with top contenders but did not see him.
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12 Jul 2018 15:52

More Strides than Rides wrote:Am I the only one not seeing anything out of the ordinary in the riders using cars to make their way back?

Maybe I wasn't paying attention but it looked pretty status quo from both Sunweb and Astana

You’re "not allowed" to sit in the slipstream of cars in the caravan, but as long as you’re making progress toward rejoining the pack, the officials will let a rider draft behind cars along the way. I think its also a rule that you can follow other team cars but you cant follow your own teams car at least not for very long.
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12 Jul 2018 15:52

I'm happy I missed the stage. I would have thrown something at the TV if I saw Dumoulin flat.

**** Tour.
oh well, bonus gone, all reset at zero again
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12 Jul 2018 15:52

Valv.Piti wrote:Valverde didnt have the best of legs. His sprint was pretty meh despite winning in the group, he didn't have what it took to beat Martin today I think.


How was that meh? He obliterated them completely in a headwind sprint.

He should just have gone with Dan Martin, that shouldn't be too hard to have realised.
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More Strides than Rides wrote:Am I the only one not seeing anything out of the ordinary in the riders using cars to make their way back?

Maybe I wasn't paying attention but it looked pretty status quo from both Sunweb and Astana

I always thought there was a clear distinction between drafting through the cars on your way back to the peloton (commissaires turn blind eye) and following your own team car for a significant period of time, which is detached from the rest of the train (blatant cheating).

Dumoulin did the latter, and probably saved 10-20 seconds as a result.
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12 Jul 2018 15:53

silvergrenade wrote:Bardet cracked
He was on teammate's bike after his flat so could not probably climb properly.
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12 Jul 2018 15:54

Happy for Dan! Feel like Valverde played that too conservatively though. I guess he’s looking at the GC picture....
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DFA123 wrote:
More Strides than Rides wrote:Am I the only one not seeing anything out of the ordinary in the riders using cars to make their way back?

Maybe I wasn't paying attention but it looked pretty status quo from both Sunweb and Astana

I always thought there was a clear distinction between drafting through the cars on your way back to the peloton (commissaires turn blind eye) and following your own team car for a significant period of time, which is detached from the rest of the train (blatant cheating).

Dumoulin did the latter, and probably saved 10-20 seconds as a result.

Hoping for a penalty..
That was so blatant it wasnt even funny.
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12 Jul 2018 15:54

Red Rick wrote:
Laplaz wrote:How much time Froome lost?

Few seconds

Froome lets Thomas worry about seconds
He's probably thinking about minutes himself

He’s going to pull out aNother Chiappucci-like attack . What an amazing rider he is :cry:
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silvergrenade wrote:
Matteo. wrote:+5s Froome
nothing

Actually expected Froome to lose 10s..
He was okay.


Yeah. Not expected to win stage. Surprised he lost time to Nibali and Quintana.

Same thing at Uran.
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12 Jul 2018 15:55

PeterB wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:Bardet cracked
He was on teammate's bike after his flat so could not probably climb properly.

Damn this Tour. Didnt know that
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12 Jul 2018 15:55

silvergrenade wrote:
Matteo. wrote:+5s Froome
nothing

Actually expected Froome to lose 10s..
He was okay.

same. i think he'll repeat the giro going in top shape next week
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12 Jul 2018 15:56

tobydawq wrote:
Valv.Piti wrote:Valverde didnt have the best of legs. His sprint was pretty meh despite winning in the group, he didn't have what it took to beat Martin today I think.


How was that meh? He obliterated them completely in a headwind sprint.

He should just have gone with Dan Martin, that shouldn't be too hard to have realised.


He almost certainly thought it was crazy to go that early into a headwind and if Martin hadn’t been super strong he’d have been right. Waiting to beat Alaphilippe in a sprint was playing the percentages.
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12 Jul 2018 15:56

woodburn wrote:Dumoulin now one second behind Froome.

Landa shown finishing with top contenders but did not see him.


Landa was there, finising last in the group behind Latour.
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12 Jul 2018 15:58

Dan Martin looks a bit like Gollum
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12 Jul 2018 15:59

Only surprise to me is how bad Uran did.
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12 Jul 2018 16:00

silvergrenade wrote:
DFA123 wrote:
More Strides than Rides wrote:Am I the only one not seeing anything out of the ordinary in the riders using cars to make their way back?

Maybe I wasn't paying attention but it looked pretty status quo from both Sunweb and Astana

I always thought there was a clear distinction between drafting through the cars on your way back to the peloton (commissaires turn blind eye) and following your own team car for a significant period of time, which is detached from the rest of the train (blatant cheating).

Dumoulin did the latter, and probably saved 10-20 seconds as a result.

Hoping for a penalty..
That was so blatant it wasnt even funny.


I mean, yeah, it was clear as day. Not denying it happened.

I used the words "out of the ordinary" and "status quo". I always assumed chasing behind cars, even your own team car, was part of the deal. And frankly, I'm fine with it.

Finally, to compare it to Nibali is ridiculous. The guys today were at least peddling their own bikes...
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