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07 Oct 2018 04:18

Squire wrote:I've always liked Paris-Tours. The year I started following cycling all through the season, 2009, had a great edition of this race won by Gilbert.

The introduction of gravel roads feels a bit gimmicky to me. This great race doesn't need to change its route. It's nice as a Milano-Sanremo-style autumn battle between the attackers and durable sprinters. What it needs is WT status.

Basically this. Paris-Tours has more often than not been a very entertaining race the past two decades. All in all it's a nice race to end the season and I don't mind the new final. But it could use an extra km or 40 and the WT status, I admit.
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07 Oct 2018 06:16

RedheadDane wrote:WB-Aqua Protect-Veranclassic have pulled out. :(


From their Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/WBVeranAquaPro/
Nos coureurs sélectionnés pour Paris-Tours, qui sont sous le choc après l’annonce du décès de leur co-équipier Jimmy Duquennoy, ont décidé de ne pas prendre le départ de l’épreuve française de ce dimanche.


Our riders selected for Paris-Tours, who are in shock after the announcement of the death of their teammate Jimmy Duquennoy, have decided not to take the start of the French race this Sunday.
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07 Oct 2018 08:35

Robert5091 wrote:
Nos coureurs sélectionnés pour Paris-Tours, qui sont sous le choc après l’annonce du décès de leur co-équipier Jimmy Duquennoy, ont décidé de ne pas prendre le départ de l’épreuve française de ce dimanche.

Respect this decision. Different teams have different ways of grieving. Sometimes the philosophy is "the race must go on" with the results dedicated to the one who was lost. Or sometimes, it's more appropriate not to.
I remember when Wouter Weylandt crashed in the Giro, my team at the time had very little to do with pro cycling, with only a handful ever going pro, but the day after Wouter crashed we decided not to ride a scheduled race.
Also once we had a slow-motion funeral procession ride, of about a hundred racers on the regional scene, retracing the route of the final ride of a local girl who died in a road-racing crash. Every time something like this happens, have to pause to think about it, put things in perspective of the vicissitudes of life and death
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07 Oct 2018 09:16

Both competitors in that sprint will end their careers today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVebsaXg73s
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07 Oct 2018 10:16

I'm still not sure what to think about the route change. I feel like this is a case of "don't try to fix it if it ain't broke" because while a lot of races have struggled over the last few years because too many editions ended in bunch sprint the balance between attackers and sprinters has actually been really good in Paris Tours and the last few years had some really exciting finale's. Then again maybe this route change helps the race to become relevant again, which would be great.
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07 Oct 2018 10:43

Composition of the breakaway : Chavanel (TDE), Eisel (DDD), Guernalec (FST), Van Goethem (RNL), Vermeulen (RLM), De Bondt (VWC)

Pack at 2'35"
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07 Oct 2018 10:48

Not a fan of gravel in this race. Add extra length instead to make the final hills feel like muritos.

Make it the second longest race after M-S. 270 kilometers if possible.
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07 Oct 2018 10:54

WheelofGear wrote:Not a fan of gravel in this race. Add extra length instead to make the final hills feel like muritos.

Make it the second longest race after M-S. 270 kilometers if possible.


That's not allowable for a non-WorldTour race.
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07 Oct 2018 11:13

tobydawq wrote:
WheelofGear wrote:Not a fan of gravel in this race. Add extra length instead to make the final hills feel like muritos.

Make it the second longest race after M-S. 270 kilometers if possible.


That's not allowable for a non-WorldTour race.

This is not a WorldTour race but Tour of Guangxi is. :lol:
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07 Oct 2018 12:41

The break of 6 -
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07 Oct 2018 12:55

Insane amount of punctures on the dirt roads in the U23 race.
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07 Oct 2018 12:57

DNP-Old wrote:Insane amount of punctures on the dirt roads in the U23 race.


That's what I thought would happen looking at the photos. Nuts!
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07 Oct 2018 13:34

The dirt roads don't only make the change in racing, but in the scenery, too.
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07 Oct 2018 13:38

This is great. Races with gravel/dirt roads >> races without.

It's a crime the Giro and Tour just ignored the strade bianche and ribin all these years.
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07 Oct 2018 13:42

I also like this, but there was nothing wrong with the old finale tbh. But we shouldn't complain about such a route, gravel roads are the best.
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07 Oct 2018 13:43

This looks promising: racing long before the finish. They already did some roads like these in GP Plouay. I think P-T could use a change of scenery. I hardly remember the past few editions. This looks more exciting.
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07 Oct 2018 13:43

Marten Kooistra about to win the U23 race from the break.
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07 Oct 2018 13:48

Bad luck for Gilbert. It's not like in P-R with volunteers standing along the roadside with a spare wheel.
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07 Oct 2018 13:53

Unlucky for Phil, really rooting for him after what happened in the Tour.

Go Kragh!
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07 Oct 2018 13:54

Gilbert’s mechanical might have saved AG2R and Naesen.

Kragh looks great though
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