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11 Mar 2017 20:08

Mayomaniac wrote:
the asian wrote:Is the Baby Giro for Under 23 riders or still for Under 27 ones?

Yes, the new name is Giro d'Italia Under 23, I forgot to mention that.
The 16 best Italian developmental teams (they have a new points ranking) will be invited and according to La Gazzetta also the teams from Lotto Soudal, BMC, a Russian and a Colombian team, the DD ct team, the Astana City team, Team Wiggins and Axeon + 2 regional squads/interregional squads (different regions could join forces to send a single team).

Also 6 riders per team, the italian teams will only be CT level and they'll only be allowed to bring a single non-Italian rider to the race.
Source: http://www.bicitv.it/giro-ditalia-u23-2017-aggiornati-i-criteri-per-la-partecipazione/

Curious what the Colombian team will be. When Bananito Betancur won Giro Bio they had a national team with riders from different teams, like in Tour de l'Avenir. But in races like Giro Valle d'Aosta they had a sponsored team (Manzana Postobon).
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11 Mar 2017 20:17

Mayomaniac wrote:
the asian wrote:Is the Baby Giro for Under 23 riders or still for Under 27 ones?

Yes, the new name is Giro d'Italia Under 23, I forgot to mention that.
The 16 best Italian developmental teams (they have a new points ranking) will be invited and according to La Gazzetta also the teams from Lotto Soudal, BMC, a Russian and a Colombian team, the DD ct team, the Astana City team, Team Wiggins and Axeon + 2 regional squads/interregional squads (different regions could join forces to send a single team).

Also 6 riders per team, the italian teams will only be CT level and they'll only be allowed to bring a single non-Italian rider to the race.
Source: http://www.bicitv.it/giro-ditalia-u23-2017-aggiornati-i-criteri-per-la-partecipazione/


U23 is much better than U27 for a developing riders event. There is no purpose to having guys in their mid 20s there. The 16 Italian teams part is crazy though. There are not 80 to 100 young riders of any one country of a level to be racing the cream of the world's development teams on a mini GT route. Most of those guys are going to get clubbed like baby seals. Also it means the Italians who actually are good enough will be split among too many teams.
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11 Mar 2017 20:26

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Mayomaniac wrote:
the asian wrote:Is the Baby Giro for Under 23 riders or still for Under 27 ones?

Yes, the new name is Giro d'Italia Under 23, I forgot to mention that.
The 16 best Italian developmental teams (they have a new points ranking) will be invited and according to La Gazzetta also the teams from Lotto Soudal, BMC, a Russian and a Colombian team, the DD ct team, the Astana City team, Team Wiggins and Axeon + 2 regional squads/interregional squads (different regions could join forces to send a single team).

Also 6 riders per team, the italian teams will only be CT level and they'll only be allowed to bring a single non-Italian rider to the race.
Source: http://www.bicitv.it/giro-ditalia-u23-2017-aggiornati-i-criteri-per-la-partecipazione/


U23 is much better than U27 for a developing riders event. There is no purpose to having guys in their mid 20s there. The 16 Italian teams part is crazy though. There are not 80 to 100 young riders of any one country of a level to be racing the cream of the world's development teams on a mini GT route. Most of those guys are going to get clubbed like baby seals. Also it means the Italians who actually are good enough will be split among too many teams.



Agree with both the age limit & your comments with regards to the number of Italian teams.

Should have invited much more foreign teams.
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11 Mar 2017 20:41

Overall we'll have 10 foreign teams, that's not too bad.
I don't mind having a decent amount of Italian teams, but 15 teams are just too many and only 1 foreign rider per Italian team is a stupid rule.
There aren't many Italian teams that could send a competitive squad with 5 Italian U23 riders (Colpack, Palazzago and maybe Zalf have the potential to do that).
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16 Mar 2017 11:23

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16 Mar 2017 11:31

Breh wrote:http://www.letour.fr/criterium-du-dauphine/2017/us/

Dauphiné route for 2017.

Stage 1 is good.

Not a fan of them using a climb (here Mont du Chat) as a teaser for July. This trend must die.

I like how they are using the town of Alpe d'Huez in a different manner. Last stage is short but the parcours is not really incentive for early attacks.
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16 Mar 2017 13:42

Alexandre B. wrote:
Breh wrote:http://www.letour.fr/criterium-du-dauphine/2017/us/

Dauphiné route for 2017.

Stage 1 is good.

Not a fan of them using a climb (here Mont du Chat) as a teaser for July. This trend must die.

I like how they are using the town of Alpe d'Huez in a different manner. Last stage is short but the parcours is not really incentive for early attacks.

hilly time trial is also worth paying attention to. that will be another great toss up between bertie and sky. hopefully nairo will want to join too.
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16 Mar 2017 14:54

No fan of the route, but it isn't bad either. Looking forward to see a couple of new climbs.
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16 Mar 2017 19:58

What about Vuelta al Pais Vasco route. Are the stage profiles out yet? If not I don't know what are they waiting for. The race starts in two weeks.
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16 Mar 2017 20:30

Contador vs. Kwiatkowski. Not a route for Henao to really contend, I think.
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17 Mar 2017 08:18

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Alexandre B. wrote:Mount Etna erupted today.

Will this cause some complications for the next Giro?


Don't think so. Etna is constantly an active volcano (the most active in Europe) and sometimes it has its moments when it decides to erupt. It happens every once in a a while and usually doesn't last that long. The eruptions usually aren't very intensive (ie. about 1/100 the power of the Iceland volcano in 2010) but the lava can obviously be very deadly. Zomegan had contingency plans ready in 2011 and I'm sure Vegni does now, too.

Not looking good for the mountain right now
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18 Mar 2017 04:33

They should knock that mountain down. It's a total nuisance.
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18 Mar 2017 10:57

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mikii4567 wrote:
Alexandre B. wrote:Mount Etna erupted today.

Will this cause some complications for the next Giro?


Don't think so. Etna is constantly an active volcano (the most active in Europe) and sometimes it has its moments when it decides to erupt. It happens every once in a a while and usually doesn't last that long. The eruptions usually aren't very intensive (ie. about 1/100 the power of the Iceland volcano in 2010) but the lava can obviously be very deadly. Zomegan had contingency plans ready in 2011 and I'm sure Vegni does now, too.

Not looking good for the mountain right now


Luckily they aren't riding the Giro right now.
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19 Mar 2017 14:35

Anyone know where to find them Pais Vasco profiles
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19 Mar 2017 15:03

Red Rick wrote:Anyone know where to find them Pais Vasco profiles

They aren't out yet I think
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19 Mar 2017 16:46

LaFlorecita wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Anyone know where to find them Pais Vasco profiles

They aren't out yet I think

Really? Some posters seem to know it already, or is Netserk omniscient?
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19 Mar 2017 16:59

Red Rick wrote:
LaFlorecita wrote:
Red Rick wrote:Anyone know where to find them Pais Vasco profiles

They aren't out yet I think

Really? Some posters seem to know it already, or is Netserk omniscient?

The route is out, I think, just not the profiles. There is a rather long ITT I believe, around 25km, which would be bad for Henao. Maybe that is what's on Netserk's mind.
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19 Mar 2017 17:29

I saw the ITT profile done by some third party when the route was announced but I don't think that the profile is 100% official (albeit it should be very precise). In the official website the only profile that it's up is of the stage to Arrate.
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19 Mar 2017 17:30

the official presentation is on March 23rd
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