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12 Jun 2013 18:12

Zam_Olyas wrote:I think it is better than God Save The Queen.


No arguments from me there.

Zam_Olyas wrote:Why do you want to debate about Sky/UK riders doping?... Because to you they are clean and will never dope.


Because to me, everything they do is explainable. Yet another thread with the usual suspects screaming that they're obviously doping, without any evidence (other than the fact they're successful).
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12 Jun 2013 18:16

doolols wrote:No arguments from me there.



Because to me, everything they do is explainable. Yet another thread with the usual suspects screaming that they're obviously doping, without any evidence (other than the fact they're successful).


Oh yes and would you like to explain the explainable.... I tell you what don't both you will start sound off BS like Dave Brailsford. And this is relaxation time for me now.
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12 Jun 2013 18:23

doolols wrote:No arguments from me there.



Because to me, everything they do is explainable. Yet another thread with the usual suspects screaming that they're obviously doping, without any evidence (other than the fact they're successful).


Why do you bother then? go read Walsh twitter feed or something instead
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12 Jun 2013 18:29

Dazed and Confused wrote:Image

A healthy diet and the fresh sea breeze will do the trick.


Oof, looks effing superb
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12 Jun 2013 18:31

Team Persil & Rod Ellingworth
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12 Jun 2013 18:35

SirLes wrote:Compare ANC Halford's assault on the TdF in 1987 with what Sky are doing now!


Well they went bankrupt in the middle of the TDF, and the owner had to rush home to sell some car so they could finish the race,:)
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12 Jun 2013 18:36

Zam_Olyas wrote:I think it is better than God Save The Queen. Why do you want to debate about Sky/UK riders doping?... Because to you they are clean and will never dope.


Jerusalem is the unofficial English anthem,like Flower of Scotland and Men of Harlech, and much much better than God Save the Queen.

Get an Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman together, give them a few drinks, get them to sing those songs and then sit back and watch the fight. Then chuck in an Irishman singing O Danny Boy and you'll have a full set
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12 Jun 2013 18:44

JimmyFingers wrote:Jerusalem is the unofficial English anthem,like Flower of Scotland and Men of Harlech, and much much better than God Save the Queen.

Get an Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman together, give them a few drinks, get them to sing those songs and then sit back and watch the fight. Then chuck in an Irishman singing O Danny Boy and you'll have a full set


I like Myfanwy much better than Men of Harlech and flowers of Scotland sung by Amy Macdonald is great.
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12 Jun 2013 18:48

JimmyFingers wrote:Jerusalem is the unofficial English anthem,like Flower of Scotland and Men of Harlech, and much much better than God Save the Queen.

Get an Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman together, give them a few drinks, get them to sing those songs and then sit back and watch the fight. Then chuck in an Irishman singing O Danny Boy and you'll have a full set


A week Saturday, Suncorp, Brisbane, Molly Malone not Danny Boy, lots of beers, there will be no fighting. Just the Lions coming out with the win.

12 years ago at the Gabba was the best atmosphere I've ever been in, not a hint of trouble.
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12 Jun 2013 18:54

wansteadimp wrote:A week Saturday, Suncorp, Brisbane, Molly Malone not Danny Boy, lots of beers, there will be no fighting. Just the Lions coming out with the win.

12 years ago at the Gabba was the best atmosphere I've ever been in, not a hint of trouble.


U2 butchered Molly Malone.
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12 Jun 2013 19:22

wansteadimp wrote:A week Saturday, Suncorp, Brisbane, Molly Malone not Danny Boy, lots of beers, there will be no fighting. Just the Lions coming out with the win.

12 years ago at the Gabba was the best atmosphere I've ever been in, not a hint of trouble.


I was there as well. Still the best sporting atmosphere ive ever experienced. Englishmen singing flower of Scotland, Irish singing bread of heaven. Really special night
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12 Jun 2013 19:45

William Blake wrote Jerusalem. It was meant as a prophetic warning against Empire (the British one). So no wonder it is only the official Anthem of England, as this was not it's intended use (by the author). Nationalism might also have been WB prophesy.
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13 Jun 2013 08:39

AcademyCC wrote:I was there as well. Still the best sporting atmosphere ive ever experienced. Englishmen singing flower of Scotland, Irish singing bread of heaven. Really special night

Suncorp is a brilliant ground to watch sports, just don't go there for State of Origin rugby league. Yikes!
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proof noun (SHOWING TRUTH)

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13 Jun 2013 08:56

JimmyFingers wrote:Jerusalem is the unofficial English anthem,like Flower of Scotland and Men of Harlech, and much much better than God Save the Queen.

Get an Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman together, give them a few drinks, get them to sing those songs and then sit back and watch the fight. Then chuck in an Irishman singing O Danny Boy and you'll have a full set


Not sure Jerusalem is the unofficial English anthem? Its the anthem of the cricket team but how many people know the words? I thought that Land of Hope and Glory was the unofficial anthem? Thats the anthem of the English Commonwealth Games team. Unfortunately it seems to be the anthem of the Conservative Party, and again, how many people know that many of the words? (going O/T but more words than John Redwood did when he was secretary of state for Wales http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIwBvjoLyZc )
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13 Jun 2013 09:16

MatParker117 wrote:Team Persil & Rod Ellingworth


Must be clean. Signed a piece of paper saying so.
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13 Jun 2013 21:36

Anyways...about that Dean Downings Head....:D
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14 Jun 2013 11:06

Frosty wrote:Not sure Jerusalem is the unofficial English anthem? Its the anthem of the cricket team but how many people know the words? I thought that Land of Hope and Glory was the unofficial anthem? Thats the anthem of the English Commonwealth Games team. Unfortunately it seems to be the anthem of the Conservative Party, and again, how many people know that many of the words? (going O/T but more words than John Redwood did when he was secretary of state for Wales http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIwBvjoLyZc )


Land of Hope and Glory arguably refers to Britain rather than England, and Jerusalem has replaced it as the victory song for the English team at the commonwealth games. And I know the words, and so do most people I know. The second verse is a belter
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14 Jun 2013 11:11

AcademyCC wrote:I was there as well. Still the best sporting atmosphere ive ever experienced. Englishmen singing flower of Scotland, Irish singing bread of heaven. Really special night


Gotta say Flower of Scotland gives me a chill, lived with two Scottish lads at Uni and between the arguing got indoctrinated by that song:

Flower o' Scotland/when will we see/your likes again
that fought and died for/their wee bit o hill and glen
And stood against him (who?)
King Edwards army (w@ankers!)
and sent them homewards
tae think again
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14 Jun 2013 11:16

horsinabout wrote:William Blake wrote Jerusalem. It was meant as a prophetic warning against Empire (the British one). So no wonder it is only the official Anthem of England, as this was not it's intended use (by the author). Nationalism might also have been WB prophesy.


God you talk absolute guff. It is nothing of the sort, it's about an imagined visit of Jesus to England, and the creation of a heaven on earth, the new Jerusalem in England's green and pleasant land. He makes reference to 'dark stanaic mills' which is interpreted as a warning against industrialisation, but that's about it. Your version is nonsense.
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14 Jun 2013 11:19

JimmyFingers wrote:Land of Hope and Glory arguably refers to Britain rather than England, and Jerusalem has replaced it as the victory song for the English team at the commonwealth games. And I know the words, and so do most people I know. The second verse is a belter


You're right, it did take over in 2010 :)
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