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Calorie deficit - how much?

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06 May 2016 05:30

When cutting I usually don't pay too much attention to the calories. I simply focus on increasing my workout intensity (and volume also).
I'm a simple guy, I like to eat. As long as I'm decreasing my fat mass and keeping the weights I'm hitting on, it's all good.
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27 Jun 2016 18:13

lenric wrote:When cutting I usually don't pay too much attention to the calories. I simply focus on increasing my workout intensity (and volume also).
I'm a simple guy, I like to eat. As long as I'm decreasing my fat mass and keeping the weights I'm hitting on, it's all good.

In summer I have trouble increasing my muscle training intensity due to living in hot southern Portugal. The gym's got air conditioning, but I often train at home. That's why I turn to cardio to lose fat.
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27 Jun 2016 20:29

Not concerned about muscle and using a Fitbit to estimate cals in cals out aimed for 500 a day and have lost 22kg so far (yes should not have that much to lose but long story). Using the Fitbit scales it would suggest I did lose about 10kg of muscle. Not concerned as can climb hills these days. First thing I do in terms of quality of diet is look at protein intake. Between 1.2-1.6gr per kg per day. Looking at the literature the suggestion when losing weight is to increase this to 2.2gr to maintain lean mass.
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29 Jun 2016 20:52

I've managed to spare muscle so far, but only losing fat at an exasperatingly slow pace of 500 g a month. Slow and steady...
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30 Jun 2016 02:53

Yeah, losing 22kg for me happened over winter last year and then when summer hit despite riding a lot more I lost no more weight. Now we are back into a southern hemisphere winter the weight is starting to come down again as my daily and weekly schedule is more constant. Slow and steady is the only way to go!
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02 Jul 2016 13:59

CoachFergie wrote:Yeah, losing 22kg for me happened over winter last year and then when summer hit despite riding a lot more I lost no more weight. Now we are back into a southern hemisphere winter the weight is starting to come down again as my daily and weekly schedule is more constant. Slow and steady is the only way to go!

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03 Jul 2016 22:42

A huge thing for me has been environment. Moved from a house where no one exercised or ate well and I was a freak for riding a bike and eating food. Slow gains there, but when I shifted to a place with another cyclist who ate Paleo things got accelerated. Have since moved to a place with people who are not bad but also not good in terms of diet and exercise and this is reflected in the days on track dropping from 80% to about 50% and this is reflected in results.

My undergrad degree was in Psychology and this video sums the role of environment up quite well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg
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04 Jul 2016 00:04

CheckMyPecs wrote:
lenric wrote:When cutting I usually don't pay too much attention to the calories. I simply focus on increasing my workout intensity (and volume also).
I'm a simple guy, I like to eat. As long as I'm decreasing my fat mass and keeping the weights I'm hitting on, it's all good.

In summer I have trouble increasing my muscle training intensity due to living in hot southern Portugal. The gym's got air conditioning, but I often train at home. That's why I turn to cardio to lose fat.


You can lose fat by sitting on the sofa all day.

Don't rely on slow steady cardio, but on high intensity cardio. Search for Hiit and tabata protocol.
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Re: Calorie deficit - how much?

04 Jul 2016 05:23

CheckMyPecs wrote:I usually aim for a calorie deficit of 200 kcal/day. I know it's very little, but I want to avoid burning muscle at all costs.
?


How do you arrive at a (quite specific) daily total?

I have trouble arriving such a specific formula which can allow for >5hrs to a rest day across various intensities.

DRI (8700kcal -- adjusted for height/weight/age/gender?) + what your bike computer says you've expended through exercise (unreliable?) - 200kcal?
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04 Jul 2016 16:53

Last year I lost the majority of weight with little to no exercise. Actually found it harder in Summer doing more riding and being more active with coaching. Now we are back in Winter things are starting to drop again. I have set a 500 calorie deficit on my Fitbit app. That is considered a medium amount to lose (in a very loose theory 1lb per week). 200 cal would be a very slow burn but a higher chance of sustaining that in the long haul. It's all estimates as the body is very complex with metabolism, endocrine system, nervous system and the environment all playing parts and what you see on the scales fluctuating for various reasons.
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04 Jul 2016 16:58

Yesterday's ride was 668 calories from the Quarq. On our earthquake damaged roads the Fitbit estimated 1050 calories. If I did the same ride on the trainer the Fitbit would estimate around 400-500. I correct on Fitbit with the power based estimate. The Fitbit is better for picking up the non exercise based thermogenesis (NEAT) and things like resting heart rate and minutes of deep sleep. Sleep is a bit part as stress levels play a big part in holding onto body fat stores.
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Re: Calorie deficit - how much?

04 Jul 2016 18:24

Elegant Degenerate wrote:
CheckMyPecs wrote:I usually aim for a calorie deficit of 200 kcal/day. I know it's very little, but I want to avoid burning muscle at all costs.
?


How do you arrive at a (quite specific) daily total?

I have trouble arriving such a specific formula which can allow for >5hrs to a rest day across various intensities.

DRI (8700kcal -- adjusted for height/weight/age/gender?) + what your bike computer says you've expended through exercise (unreliable?) - 200kcal?


use a formula to get an estimation and then you can choose to:
a) eat the same amount of food every day
b) eat more on trainning days and less on rest days, but keep the weekly calories the same

then you just have to go by the scale and mirror. if you're loosing too much weigh increase calories, if you're gainning decrease calories.

it's trial and error basicaly.
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Re: Calorie deficit - how much?

04 Jul 2016 20:53

Elegant Degenerate wrote:
CheckMyPecs wrote:I usually aim for a calorie deficit of 200 kcal/day. I know it's very little, but I want to avoid burning muscle at all costs.
?


How do you arrive at a (quite specific) daily total?

It's not really that specific, it's an average.
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