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14 Aug 2016 14:04

kwikki wrote:Depends on what criteria they use to decide on targeting. I'm sure you agree there has to be criteria, yes?

Dodgy values or hearsay or both. Who knows, I don't.

If "strong suspicions of connections between athlete and one or more exposed doping coaches/doctors" doesn't count, I don't know what does. And there's Mo's missed test(s?) of course.

And regardless of the criteria, if all the news surrounding Mo hasn't triggered UKAD to target-test him I take that as evidence of UKAD's incompetence at best, and of their complicity in doping at worst.
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14 Aug 2016 14:15

Benotti69 wrote:
BullsFan22 wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:Evidence of Mo Farah lying about his Coach Jama Aden

https://twitter.com/Swift__Girl/status/764795945523482624

Aden's daughter outs Mo Farah.

Farah claimed in a question put to him by Irish Journalist that he didn't know Aden and the photo was a fan photo.

See evidence. Lying. Why lie? What is Farah hiding as an athlete? Answer = doping.



That's old news. Literally and figuratively. Once news came of Aden's doping practices and how he's worked with some 'well known' athletes, Farah quickly distanced himself from him. It's really a quick fix. Done before. Cycling has had TONS of that.


I know it is old but those with blinkers obviously need to see the evidence more than once :p


Yes, but it doesn't matter how many times they see it, if they aren't paying attention to it.
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14 Aug 2016 14:16

Jana Aden's daughter deletes her twitter account...in case more evidence is needed.
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14 Aug 2016 14:34

sniper wrote:
kwikki wrote:Depends on what criteria they use to decide on targeting. I'm sure you agree there has to be criteria, yes?

Dodgy values or hearsay or both. Who knows, I don't.

If "strong suspicions of connections between athlete and one or more exposed doping coaches/doctors" doesn't count, I don't know what does. And there's Mo's missed test(s?) of course.

And regardless of the criteria, if all the news surrounding Mo hasn't triggered UKAD to target-test him I take that as evidence of UKAD's incompetence at best, and of their complicity in doping at worst.


I don't disagree
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14 Aug 2016 14:50

sniper wrote:
kwikki wrote:Depends on what criteria they use to decide on targeting. I'm sure you agree there has to be criteria, yes?

Dodgy values or hearsay or both. Who knows, I don't.

If "strong suspicions of connections between athlete and one or more exposed doping coaches/doctors" doesn't count, I don't know what does. And there's Mo's missed test(s?) of course.

And regardless of the criteria, if all the news surrounding Mo hasn't triggered UKAD to target-test him I take that as evidence of UKAD's incompetence at best, and of their complicity in doping at worst.


This used to be Walsh's bread and butter investigation of connecting the dots. Alas it's really only been Letsrun.com and other blogs sites that have done the work. There is an awful lot of coincidences in Mo's timeline but I don't see the appetite for any mainstream publication to really want to peel back the layers and see what's there.

Runners are also fortunate that they don't have a 21 day event in which journalists could hit them with questions each day about their associations.
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14 Aug 2016 19:04

lol at Whitlock.
Isn't that traditionally Russian territory?
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14 Aug 2016 19:59

British beating those pesky doped up Chinese cheaters in the medal table at the moment. What a brilliant advertisement for clean sports for other countries to aspire to.
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Re: Brits don't dope?

14 Aug 2016 20:07

I read that before the games, that the British federation had a goal of 48 (or around 50) medals. They are currently at 35. With still almost half of the Olympics to go, that shouldn't be a problem at this rate. I think it's too bad that the team hasn't included Froome in track cycling, and any of the athletics events (marathon included). I mean, just look at the way he ran up Ventoux. He'd surely give Mo a far better competition than those pesky Kenyans! :lol:
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14 Aug 2016 20:20

Basically UK is the new GDR only clean. Maybe even better.
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14 Aug 2016 20:35

As Walsh noted wrt the British medal haul in 2012, UK have specifically targeted sports where doping is less prevalent, allowing them to compete clean and win many medals. Damn why didn't other countries think of that.
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14 Aug 2016 20:42

sniper wrote:lol at Whitlock.
Isn't that traditionally Russian territory?




Would doping help in gymnastics?
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14 Aug 2016 21:41

Cavendish 11 seconds faster in the IP than in the worlds

Nothing to see here
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14 Aug 2016 21:44

Marginal gains is dead. Peaking is the new marginal gains. GB peak for the big events. Everyone else peaked sometime around last xmas
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14 Aug 2016 21:45

PremierAndrew wrote:Cavendish 11 seconds faster in the IP than in the worlds

Nothing to see here


there is no way you improve this much at this level in just a few months...crazy
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14 Aug 2016 21:45

Chaddy wrote:
sniper wrote:lol at Whitlock.
Isn't that traditionally Russian territory?

Would doping help in gymnastics?
doping is indispensable in gymnastics.
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14 Aug 2016 21:49

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PremierAndrew wrote:Cavendish 11 seconds faster in the IP than in the worlds

Nothing to see here


there is no way you improve this much at this level in just a few months...crazy


TeamGB have the marginal gains so down that a morning on the marginal gains will change a rider. :lol:
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14 Aug 2016 21:52

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PremierAndrew wrote:Cavendish 11 seconds faster in the IP than in the worlds

Nothing to see here


there is no way you improve this much at this level in just a few months...crazy


Well, you certainly can. But the problem is, Cav was under pressure to perform to get a place on the GB team for the Olympics, so he must have had to peak. To improve 11 seconds on supposedly a peak...

Then again, I don't think being beaten by Nizzolo in Slovenia is his peak, so I'll continue to hold on to that 1% chance that he might be clean
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14 Aug 2016 21:53

Chris Hoy asked on the BBC what's the biggest thing that's changed over the years in track cycling. He said not the kit or equipment. But the analysis.. Hoy trolling. :D
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14 Aug 2016 21:56

Benotti69 wrote:Chris Hoy asked on the BBC what's the biggest thing that's changed over the years in track cycling. He said not the kit or equipment. But the analysis.. Hoy trolling. :D


This makes me question the logic behind a lot of your posts.
Kit or equipment would have a marginal effect compared to the effect of pacing properly, technique at critical points such as accelerating or holding a pace on a big chainring etc

Doped or not, it's really not surprising that analysis is a critical part of the improvements made
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